Definition of (quantum) information?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the definition of information, particularly in the context of quantum information. Participants explore various definitions, including von Neumann entropy and superposition, and the implications of these definitions on the understanding of information exchange in quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a consistent, non-circular definition of information that encompasses both classical and quantum information, highlighting the challenges posed by entangled states and indistinguishable quantum states.
  • The participant notes that changes in probability amplitudes could imply changes in information, but questions how this aligns with the concept of measurement and information exchange.
  • There is a suggestion that a distinction may be necessary between classical information (0/1) and quantum information (superposition).
  • Another participant recommends Stephen Barnett's work on Quantum Information as a resource for understanding the concept in a quantum context.
  • A later reply confirms that a pre-publication draft of Barnett's book is sufficient for learning about quantum information, indicating no essential chapters are missing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects uncertainty and confusion regarding the definition of information, with no consensus reached on a clear definition that includes quantum information. Multiple perspectives on the nature of information and its measurement are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the definitions proposed, particularly concerning the circularity of conditions for measurement and the implications for decoherence theories. There are unresolved questions about how to reconcile classical and quantum definitions of information.

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I am trying to find a consistent, non-circular definition of information, which includes quantum information. The two main definitions that recur are the von Neumann entropy and the superposition definition. Let's take the latter; the former is similar. This would mean that any change in the probability amplitudes would allow us to talk of a change of information. But following this definition, two simultaneous changes of information in two particles, with the corresponding probabilities of one particle being taken over by the probabilities of another particle, would seem like an exchange of information -- until one thinks about two entangled states changing their states without information being exchanged, or two different quantum states which cannot be distinguished via measurement. So somewhere in a definition of information should come a provision that a measurement must be able to distinguish between the two choices (without using some circular clause such as a condition that information is exchanged to call it a measurement). But that brings us back to the classic definition of information, which then eliminates the possibility of talking about an exchange of information in, for example, decoherence theories. So do we have to have two definitions: information (0/1) and quantum information (superposition)? All in all, I am confused. Can anyone give me a clear definition of information (which includes quantum information)?
Thank you.
 
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I would have a read of Stephen Barnett's Quantum Information.

It gives a detailed discussion of the concept of information in a quantum mechanical context.
 
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That's an pre-publication draft of the book. It's more than enough to learn about Quantum Information, there's no chapter you're missing.
 
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