Degenerate perturbation theory

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The discussion revolves around degenerate perturbation theory, specifically addressing the eigenvalues resulting from diagonalizing a perturbation matrix and the implications of these eigenvalues on energy corrections. Participants are exploring the significance of terms in the energy expression, particularly the presence of a negative sign and the order of perturbation corrections.

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  • Participants inquire about the eigenvalues obtained from the perturbation and their relationship to the signs in the energy expression. Questions arise regarding the meaning of the O(λ²) term and its implications for further corrections.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the eigenvalues and their effects on the degeneracy of states. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the negative sign and the order of corrections, but there is no explicit consensus on the implications of these findings.

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Hi, i have put the question, my attempt and actual answer in the attached picture. My answer is not quite right; firstly why is the second term a minus lambda, and where does the O(lamdba^2) come from?


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What are the two eigenvalues you found when you diagonalized the perturbation? You should have found two. Once you know both, I think you'll see why the minus sign is there in the answer.

The O(\lambda^2) just means that the any further correction to the energy is of order \lambda^2 or higher. There are no other corrections proportional to |\lambda|.
 
vela said:
What are the two eigenvalues you found when you diagonalized the perturbation? You should have found two. Once you know both, I think you'll see why the minus sign is there in the answer.

The O(\lambda^2) just means that the any further correction to the energy is of order \lambda^2 or higher. There are no other corrections proportional to |\lambda|.

Do you mean the plus and minus modulus (\lambda) for the two eigenvalues? If so how does that give the minus sign? Thanks
 
You found the eigenvalues of the perturbation matrix to be plus or minus modulus of lamdba. So, the initial two-fold degenerate state acted by the perturbation will no longer be degenerate it will give rise to two different states (eigenvectors in first order of H) with different energies. Which is now the groud state?
 
go quantum! said:
You found the eigenvalues of the perturbation matrix to be plus or minus modulus of lamdba. So, the initial two-fold degenerate state acted by the perturbation will no longer be degenerate it will give rise to two different states (eigenvectors in first order of H) with different energies. Which is now the groud state?

Ah, the groundstate is minus lamda. Thanks (to all)
 

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