Denoting the Largest Member of a Set: Symbols & Techniques

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The discussion focuses on denoting the largest member of a set, specifically addressing the distinction between maximum and supremum. The accepted notation for the largest member is max(A), but this only applies when the maximum is an element of the set. For example, the set {1 - 1/n; n a natural} has a supremum but no maximum, illustrating that infinite sets may not have a greatest element. It is concluded that finite sets always possess a maximum.

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Let's say I have a set {A}. How do I denote the largest member of that set?
For example, let's say I have a solution set of discrete values. How do I denote the largest solution?

Basically, with any set, how do I denote the largest member of that set? What symbol/s do I use !?
 
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What's wrong with something like max(A)??
 
That is the formal/accepted way of expressing it (the largest member of a set), right?
 
Do maximums differ from least upper bounds (supremums)? The definitions I found didn't clear this up. Edit: Eh, because I was going to say supremum.
 
AFAIK, the maximum of a set must necessarily be a member of the set as well. So for example, {1 - 1/n; n a natural} has a supremum, but no maximum.
 
Muzza is absolutely correct.

given a set (presumably of real numbers) there is no reason for that set to even have a greatest element, even if it is bounded above (ie all elements are less than some constant K). The sup is the smallest such K that bounds them above, and this is the max if and only if K is an element of the set.

Note, that this only applies to infinite sets. Any finite set of points must have a maxmimum.
 

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