Deriving mgh from Newton's Law: Binomial Expansion

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equation E=mgh from Newton's Law of Gravitation using binomial expansion. The user initially misinterprets energy as force and struggles with the correct application of gravitational potential energy. Key steps include recognizing that E represents gravitational potential energy, not force, and adjusting the terms accordingly to arrive at the desired formula. The final insight emphasizes expressing gravitational acceleration (g) in terms of the gravitational constant (G), mass (M), and radius (r).

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Homework Statement


Derive E=mgh from Newton's law of Gravitation where h is very small. (Use binomial expansion)

2. The attempt at a solution
E = \frac{GMm}{(r+h)^2}-\frac{GMm}{r^2}
E = \frac{GMm}{r^2}(\frac{1}{(1+\frac{h}{r})^2}-1)
E = \frac{GMm}{r^2}((1+\frac{h}{r})^{-2}-1)
E = \frac{GMm}{r^2}(1+\frac{-2h}{r}-1) Other powers of h/r becomes negligible for h<<r
E = \frac{GMm}{r^2}(\frac{-2h}{r})

Not sure where I went wrong or what to do next
Note:- I know this can be solved in a million other methods but I want the answer specifically from this method. I had a book which used this method and I can't remember how this method works out.
 
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The potential in Newtonian gravity is negative. You are taking potential(reference level) - potential(height h) instead of the other way around.
 
Okay so I will have 2h/r instead of -2h/r. Doesn't solve the problem though
 
Then what is your problem? It looks fine to me.
 
Instead of "2h/r", I should get "h" so I can rewrite the answer as mgh
 
Move 2/r from the h/r term to the term with G and M ...
 
so 1/r^2 will become 1/r^3.
 
Faiq said:
E = \frac{GMm}{(r+h)^2}-\frac{GMm}{r^2}
Start with gravitational PE, not force. (What you are calling "E" is force not energy.)
 
ohhhhhhhhhh
 
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Okay now I am getting GMm/r *h/r
 
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Oh okay done thanks
 
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Doc Al said:
Start with gravitational PE, not force. (What you are calling "E" is force not energy.)
True that. The same basic principle applies though. The entire point is expressing g in terms of G, M and r.
 
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Orodruin said:
The same basic principle applies though. The entire point is expressing g in terms of G, M and r.
Yep.
 

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