Describing consciousness mathematically

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The discussion centers on the potential for mathematically describing consciousness, particularly the transition from the state of unknown to known and the concept of awareness. The initial inquiry suggests that there may be a mathematical language capable of defining awareness rigorously. However, responses indicate that the topic is too vague and philosophical, lacking the necessary conditions and constraints for scientific exploration. Alternative approaches, such as systems theory or neuronal networks, are mentioned, but emphasize the need for precise definitions within a structured framework. Ultimately, the conversation is deemed unproductive and is closed due to its philosophical nature.
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I was discussing consciousness with my brother, and I was wondering if you can mathematically describe it; when something becomes known it goes from the state of unknown to known, there is a knower; when the knower knows he knows, is that not awareness? There seems to be a language in math for describing knowns and unknowns, could we make this rigorous to give a definition of awareness?
 
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Chenkel said:
I was discussing consciousness with my brother, and I was wondering if you can mathematically describe it; when something becomes known it goes from the state of unknown to known, there is a knower; when the knower knows he knows, is that not awareness? There seems to be a language in math for describing knowns and unknowns, could we make this rigorous to give a definition of awareness?
This is far too vague to find an answer. It is pure philosophy if you don't pose additional conditions and constraints. And philosophy, I'm afraid is a topic we do not discuss on PF. It simply leads nowhere. And this is also true for your question. It won't lead anywhere.

You can approach this topic via systems, neuronal networks, or formal languages, besides philosophy. But then, you will need a precise definition of the framework. As long as consciousness or knowledge is used in the common language they come from, as long there will be no way to approach them scientifically.

This thread is closed.
Reason: philosophy.
 
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