Describing consciousness mathematically

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I was discussing consciousness with my brother, and I was wondering if you can mathematically describe it; when something becomes known it goes from the state of unknown to known, there is a knower; when the knower knows he knows, is that not awareness? There seems to be a language in math for describing knowns and unknowns, could we make this rigorous to give a definition of awareness?
 
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I was discussing consciousness with my brother, and I was wondering if you can mathematically describe it; when something becomes known it goes from the state of unknown to known, there is a knower; when the knower knows he knows, is that not awareness? There seems to be a language in math for describing knowns and unknowns, could we make this rigorous to give a definition of awareness?
This is far too vague to find an answer. It is pure philosophy if you don't pose additional conditions and constraints. And philosophy, I'm afraid is a topic we do not discuss on PF. It simply leads nowhere. And this is also true for your question. It won't lead anywhere.

You can approach this topic via systems, neuronal networks, or formal languages, besides philosophy. But then, you will need a precise definition of the framework. As long as consciousness or knowledge is used in the common language they come from, as long there will be no way to approach them scientifically.

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Reason: philosophy.
 
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