Determinants and inverses of matrices

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the topic of determinants and inverses of matrices, specifically focusing on a set of equations involving matrices P, Q, R, and S. The original poster seeks guidance on how to approach finding matrices X, Y, and Z given the equations PX = Q, QY = R, and RZ = S.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of matrix inverses and the potential application of row reduction as an alternative method. Questions arise regarding the necessity of finding determinants and inverses, as well as the understanding of matrix multiplication and its properties.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using the inverse of matrix P to isolate X, while others suggest exploring row reduction techniques. There is an acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with the concepts, and participants are engaging in clarifying definitions and rules related to matrix operations.

Contextual Notes

Several participants express their current challenges with matrix multiplication and their learning status regarding determinants and inverses, indicating a range of experience levels in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


P=\begin{pmatrix}3 & -1\\
2 & 4
\end{pmatrix}

Q=\begin{pmatrix}4 & -1\\
-2 & 1
\end{pmatrix}

R=\begin{pmatrix}3 & -3\\
2 & 4
\end{pmatrix}

S=\begin{pmatrix}4 & 7\\
9 & 1
\end{pmatrix}

PX = Q
QY = R
RZ = S

Find Matrices X, Y, and Z.

Homework Equations


ad - bc = det

How do I use things regarding the topic of determinants and inverses of matrices to solve this question? :confused:

Cheers,
Thorn
 
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If you multiply the equation PX=Q with the inverse of P from the left, you get :

P-1PX=X=P-1Q.

First find the inverse of P.

ehild
 
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Though it is not necessary to actually find any determinants and inverse matrices. I would use "row reduction" instead. Have you studied row reduction yet and how have you learned to find determinants and inverses?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Though it is not necessary to actually find any determinants and inverse matrices. I would use "row reduction" instead. Have you studied row reduction yet and how have you learned to find determinants and inverses?

Not yet, I'm still new to this topic. In fact, I am still rather rusty with matrix multiplication, although I am getting better at it.
 
ehild said:
If you multiply the equation PX=Q with the inverse of P from the left, you get :

P-1PX=X=P-1Q.

First find the inverse of P.

ehild

Is that a rule of some sort?
 
It is pretty much the definition of "inverse"! If A is a matrix, A^{-1} is its inverse if and only if A^{-1}A= AA^{-1}= I

If Ax= b then A^{-1}(Ax)= A^{-1}b, (A^{-1}A)x= A^{-1}b (associative law for matrix multiplication), Ix= x= A^{-1}b.
 
thornluke said:
Is that a rule of some sort?
Yes, it most certainly is,
This is the rule of manipulating equations
you have A=B, therefore (whatever I do to A)=(the same thing I do to B)
So, if PX=Q, then multiplying the left side by P-1 will be still equal to multiplying the right side of the equation by also P-1
hence, P-1.P.X=P-1.Q
then, since P-1 is by definition such that P-1P=I (identity)
then it follows that X(=P-1.P).X=P-1Q
You would do he same thing if it was 'regular' algebra
ax=y => x=y/a, , that would come from ax=y => ax/a=y/a => x=y/a, and you have to take the same care here: is a!=0 ? (for matrices, this will translate to, is a inversible ?) with the additional dificulty that multiplication is not commutative, so you must be careful with your handling of the equations
 
thornluke said:
Not yet, I'm still new to this topic. In fact, I am still rather rusty with matrix multiplication, although I am getting better at it.

Then find the matrix T=\begin{pmatrix}a &amp; b\\ <br /> c &amp; d <br /> \end{pmatrix} so as the product of T and P is the unit matrix U=\begin{pmatrix}1 &amp; 0\\ <br /> 0 &amp; 1 \end{pmatrix}: TP=U.
Show the multiplication in detail.
 
thornluke said:
Not yet, I'm still new to this topic. In fact, I am still rather rusty with matrix multiplication, although I am getting better at it.
Well, you probably will have it soon. It is a much simpler way to find inverses and solve systems, especially for very large matrices. Here these matrices are all "2 by 2", especially easy. You probably already know that for the matrix
\begin{pmatrix}a &amp; b \\ c &amp; d\end{pmatrix}
the determinant is ad- bc. And its inverse matrix is
\frac{1}{ad- bc}\begin{pmatrix}d &amp; -b \\ -c &amp; a\end{pmatrix}
 

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