Determine the focal length of a lens

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The discussion focuses on determining the focal length of a lens required to create a half-size image of a 2.0-cm-diameter spider located 2.0 meters from a wall. The key equations used include the magnification formula (M = hi/ho = -di/do) and the lens formula (1/f = 1/do + 1/di). The correct focal length derived from the calculations is approximately 0.44 meters, with the lens positioned between the wall and the spider. Participants clarified the relationship between object distance (do) and image distance (di) to arrive at the solution.

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Homework Statement



A 2.0-cm-diameter spider is 2.0 {\rm m} from a wall.
Determine the focal length of a lens that will make a half-size image of the spider on the wall.
Determine the position (measured from the wall) of a lens that will make a half-size image of the spider on the wall.

Homework Equations



M = fi/fo = di/do
1/f = 1/do + 1/di

The Attempt at a Solution


i got the first part. but not sure how to do the second one
 
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How did you get the first part? What did you get? There appear to be an infinite number of solutions, so I'm wondering which one you chose.
 


that was in the book. I am not really sure how to get that.
i tried it but i got -2m as the focal lens, where it is supposed to be 0.44m
here is how i did it

M = hi/ho
0.5 = hi/0.02
hi = 0.01 m

hi/ho = -di/do
0.01/0.02m = -di/2m
di = -1m

1/f = 1/do+1/di
1/f = 1/2m+1/-1m
f = -2 m

im not sure where i messed up
 


hi/ho = -di/do
0.01/0.02m = -di/2m
di = -1m
You chose Do = 2 m.

Oh, I missed that - the image is on the wall 2m from the spider! So the lens must be between the wall and the spider. And Do + Di = 2. Between the two of us, we'll get this yet!
You can't choose Do = 2; you must put Do = 2 - Di.
Probably easiest to put it into 1/2 = Di/Do so you can solve for Di.
Then it is easy to get f. I get a little less than half a meter.
Kind of backwards, having to do (b) before (a).
 


got it
thanx a lot
 

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