Determine the mass moment of inertia of the assembly

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass moment of inertia of an assembly consisting of a block and a semicylinder. The original poster outlines the problem, including the masses and dimensions involved, and attempts to calculate the center of mass and the moment of inertia about a specified axis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster calculates the center of mass and attempts to find the moment of inertia for both the block and the semicylinder using the parallel axis theorem and standard formulas. Some participants question the application of the moment of inertia formula for the semicylinder, particularly whether it is calculated about the correct axis. Others explore the implications of the parallel axis theorem and its relevance to the calculations being performed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the assumptions made regarding the moment of inertia calculations. There is a focus on clarifying the correct application of the parallel axis theorem and the definitions of the moments of inertia being used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to ensure that the correct reference points are used in calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the specific errors in the original poster's calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the reference points for the moment of inertia calculations, particularly for the semicylinder. There is also mention of the original poster's results differing from expected values, indicating a need for further exploration of the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


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Determine the location of y of the center of mass G of the assembly and then calculate the moment of inertia about an axis perpendicular to the page and passing through G. The block has a mass of 3 kg and the mass of the semicylinder is 5 kg.

Homework Equations


-parallel axis theorem
-moment of inertia plate
-moment of inertia semicylinder
- y= (Σydm)/(Σdm)

The Attempt at a Solution



The block has center at y=350, dm= 3, ydm= 1050
The semicylinder has center at y=115,117, dm=5 and ydm= 575,585
So y(center)= (1050+575,585)/(8)= 203,198 mm

(answer in back of book is 203 mm, so this seems correct)

now I(block) = (1/12)*m*(a^2+b^2)+ md^2= (1/12)*3*(0.3^2+0.4^2) + 3*(0.203198-0.350)^2
=> 0.1271524816 kg*m^2 (as you can see I converted mm in m, which explains the 0.203198 instead of 203.198 for example)
now I(semicylinder)= (1/2)*m*R^2 + md^2= (1/2)*5*(0.2)^2+ 5* (0.203198-0.115117)^2
=> 0.13879 kg*m^2 (I heard, but also verified myself that the moment of inertia for semicylinder is same as for full cylinder, hence 1/2*m*R^2.

The answer should be 0.230 kg* m^2
but i get 0.266 kg* m^2

So what did I do wrong? Is the moment of inertia for semicylinder not correct afterall?
 
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EDIT: When getting ##I## for the semi-cylinder, does ##(1/2)MR^2## give you the rotational inertia about the CM of the semi-cylinder?
 
What does the parallel axis theorem say about which moments of inertia ?
 
TSny said:
EDIT: When getting ##I## for the semi-cylinder, does ##(1/2)MR^2## give you the rotational inertia about the CM of the semi-cylinder?


Ow, so the moment of inertia for the semi cylinder with (1/2)MR^2 is not around the the center of the semi cylinder but around the center of the full cylinder it would make? So in this case it would be around the z-axis which passes through y=200 mm?
 
So 0.5*5*(0.2)^2+(0.203-0.2)^2*5= I(cylinder)

Together with the I(plate) gives 0.227. So why is it still off?
 
BvU said:
What does the parallel axis theorem say about which moments of inertia ?
Meaning you want to make a different kind of calculation. Answer to #4 is yes.
 
Pascal1p said:
So 0.5*5*(0.2)^2+(0.203-0.2)^2*5= I(cylinder)

Together with the I(plate) gives 0.227. So why is it still off?
The parallel axis theorem ##I = I_{cm} + md^2## involves the rotational inertia about the center of mass of the object, ##I_{cm}##. Your calculation uses ##(1/2)MR^2## instead of ##I_{cm}##.
 

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