Engineering Determining Force and Directions on Truss with Pulley

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The discussion focuses on calculating forces in a truss system with pulleys at points D and E. The user has been using the method of joints but is uncertain about the correct application of forces due to the pulleys. It is clarified that the tension in the cable is uniform and should be treated as a single entity affecting the links. The user is advised to perform free body diagrams (FBD) for each pulley to analyze the compression forces acting on the links. Ultimately, calculating moments about the pivots will help visualize the load distribution across the truss.
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I am struggling to figure out if I did this problem correctly. I am supposed to determine the forces acting on all of the links, as well as whether they are in tension or compression. There is an image included below.
Relevant Equations
∑Fx=0
∑Fy=0
∑M=0
So far I have used methods of joints to determine the forces at point E, D, and C. However, there is also a pulley attached to point D and E which I included in the sum of forces, but I'm not sure if that's the correct way to apply them. Every force I've calculated so far has also been in tension, which does not seem right. I'm also unsure of how to calculate the reactions at A and B with the pulley involved. Any help would be much appreciated.
 

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Welcome, @trusshelp148 !

My old eyes can barely distinguish anything in that image that you have included.
Could you improve it?
 
Lnewqban said:
Welcome, @trusshelp148 !

My old eyes can barely distinguish anything in that image that you have included.
Could you improve it?
Thank you! And of course, sorry for the blurry view. I've attached some more photos that I hope are more viewable.
 
Thank you! :smile:
I would treat both pulleys as one.
The tension in the cable is the same everywhere.
Are those 2000 kg-mass or kg-force?
That weight is your tension, pushing D and E down and compressing link 6 from both ends.

Please, see:
https://www.ecourses.ou.edu/cgi-bin/ebook.cgi?topic=st&chap_sec=03.2&page=case_sol

Links 4 and 5 must be in compression, transferring that load down to node C, link 1 and pivot A.
Link 1 must be in compression, while ling 2 is pulling hard from pivot B.
Link 3 is not doing much, at least in theory.
 
Lnewqban said:
Thank you! :smile:
I would treat both pulleys as one.
The tension in the cable is the same everywhere.
Are those 2000 kg-mass or kg-force?
That weight is your tension, pushing D and E down and compressing link 6 from both ends.

Please, see:
https://www.ecourses.ou.edu/cgi-bin/ebook.cgi?topic=st&chap_sec=03.2&page=case_sol

Links 4 and 5 must be in compression, transferring that load down to node C, link 1 and pivot A.
Link 1 must be in compression, while ling 2 is pulling hard from pivot B.
Link 3 is not doing much, at least in theory.
It is 2000 kg-mass, yes. How would I go about treating the pulley as one? Since it's the same cable going through D and E, do I not need to apply it to the links multiple times?
 
trusshelp148 said:
It is 2000 kg-mass, yes. How would I go about treating the pulley as one? Since it's the same cable going through D and E, do I not need to apply it to the links multiple times?
Doing a FBD for each pulley, you will see that two compression forces go down the two links that meet at each.
Treat the cable as in equilibrium (Tin = Tout)
 
Lnewqban said:
Doing a FBD for each pulley, you will see that two compression forces go down the two links that meet at each.
Treat the cable as in equilibrium (Tin = Tout)
Thank you! I understand now.
 
Triangle CDE is loading node C with (19.6 x 2) kN (straight down).
Calculating moments about pivots A, and then B, you can determine how much vertical and horizontal forces each is loaded with.
Only then, you will be able to visualize how each link is working.
 

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