Determining how compounds react

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The discussion revolves around predicting chemical reactions between compounds, specifically addressing whether reactions can be anticipated or if they require experimental validation. The scope includes theoretical aspects of chemistry and introductory concepts for beginners.

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  • One participant questions the predictability of chemical reactions and provides an example of mixing salt and water, noting the discrepancy between the balanced equation and the actual outcome.
  • Another participant suggests that learning about chemical reactions typically involves practicing problems related to stoichiometry and understanding functional groups in Organic Chemistry.
  • A different participant proposes examining the thermodynamics of reactions, mentioning the calculation of standard free energies to assess reaction feasibility, while also highlighting that reaction rates can influence whether a reaction occurs.
  • A later reply humorously asks for an example of a reaction that does not adhere to thermodynamic laws, implying a challenge to the previous claim about thermodynamics.

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The discussion contains multiple viewpoints on how to approach predicting chemical reactions, with no consensus on a singular method or understanding of the topic. Participants express differing opinions on the role of thermodynamics and practical learning in chemistry.

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Is there any way to predict how two chemicals will react or is it up to experimentation to discover that?

Take salt + water for example:

NaCl + H2O -> HCl + NaOH

The equation is balanced, but obviously when mixing salt and water you don't get hydrochloric acid...you get salt water... So how can you determine how compounds will react and would there be a way to induce the above reaction?

Sorry, just started learning chemistry like 15 minutes ago (to try and learn about chemiluminescence), and I apologize is this is a really newbie question.
 
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Usually when first starting out you will learn how things react by practicing lots of problems (stoichiometry problems, strong/weak acids & bases, etc). If you take a course in Organic Chemistry, half of the time spent will be on how chemicals react based on their functional groups.
 
One approach is to look at the thermodynamics of the reaction. You can look up the standard free energies of formation of the products and reactants and calculate the overall ΔG of the reaction. If the ΔG is very positive, the reaction is not going to happen (without the addition of an external source of work such as electricity).

While this approach will tell you whether the reaction obeys the laws of thermodynamics, there are other factors that determine reactivity, such as the rate of reaction. For example, the reaction diamond --> graphite has an overall negative ΔG at room temperature, but the rate of this reaction is so slow that it does not happen (hence, the saying that diamonds are forever).
 
Ygggdrasil said:
While this approach will tell you whether the reaction obeys the laws of thermodynamics

Do you know one reaction that doesn't follow them? :-p
 

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