Determining possible trajectories (Classical Mechanics)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining possible trajectories for a particle that maintains a constant speed and constant angular momentum. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, particularly focusing on motion dynamics and angular momentum principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of constant angular momentum and constant velocity magnitude, with some suggesting that trajectories may be circular. There are inquiries into the mathematical relationships governing these conditions, including the differentiation of angular momentum.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of angular momentum and the use of polar coordinates, though there is no explicit consensus on the trajectory forms yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the relationship between angular momentum and force, as well as the implications of zero torque. There is a mention of potentially needing to graph trajectories in phase space, indicating a deeper mathematical exploration may be required.

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Homework Statement



Determine possible trajectories for particle with constant magnitude of velocity |[itex]\dot{\vec{r}}[/itex]| = v0 and constant angular momentum [itex]\vec{L}[/itex] = [itex]\vec{L}[/itex]0

Homework Equations



|[itex]\dot{\vec{r}}[/itex]| = v0
[itex]\vec{L}[/itex] = [itex]\vec{L}[/itex]0

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that L dot is zero and thereby the torque is zero. My intuition tells me that the possibly trajectories would be circles but mathematically, I am not sure where to start.
 
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Look at he definition of L. Perhaps the time derivative of that tells you something
 
Well, as I said, if [itex]\dot{\vec{L}}[/itex] = 0, then the net torque and net force are zero. The constant velocity magnitude implies that the direction of the velocity vector can change but the speed would remain constant.

If F is zero, then you have

m[itex]\ddot{x}[/itex] = 0

Which implies that x(t) is of some linear form:

x(t) = at + b, where a = v[itex]_{0}[/itex] and b = x[itex]_{0}[/itex].

I'm assuming the question requires the graphing of the trajectories in phase space and hence would require some form of mathematical development in terms of the energy of the system.
 
I think BvU meant for you to differentiate ##\vec{L} = \vec{r}\times\vec{F}## and to interpret the result.

By the way, your inference that ##\dot{\vec{L}} = 0## implies ##\vec{F}=0## is not correct.
 
I meant: differentiate ##\vec L = \vec r \times \vec p## wrt time, knowing ##\vec p = m\dot{\vec r}##. Don't venture into x and y because you have everything you need in polar coordinates.
 

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