Did Hubble opine that the universe was expanding?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether Edwin Hubble explicitly proposed that the universe was expanding based on his observations of galaxies moving away from each other, particularly in relation to his interpretation of redshift data and the implications of Einstein's general theory of relativity. The scope includes historical interpretation and the nuances of Hubble's conclusions.

Discussion Character

  • Historical
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Hubble suggested that space itself was expanding or if he viewed the galaxies as moving within a fixed space, indicating a potential ambiguity in his conclusions.
  • Another participant notes that Hubble and Humason did not explicitly state that redshifted nebulae were receding, emphasizing that they left the interpretation of their findings to others, citing a quotation from Hubble himself.
  • A different participant asserts that Hubble was hesitant to conclude that his redshift studies indicated an expanding universe, suggesting he questioned but did not fully reject that interpretation throughout his life.
  • One participant comments on the use of the word "opine," indicating a lighter tone in the discussion.
  • Another participant identifies themselves as a logolept, suggesting a focus on language and terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on Hubble's stance regarding the expansion of the universe, with no consensus reached on whether he explicitly proposed this idea or left it open to interpretation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of historical interpretation, including the dependence on Hubble's own words and the ambiguity surrounding his conclusions about redshift and the nature of the universe.

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When Hubble published that the galaxies were moving away from each other, the further away the greater redshift and the greater separation velocity, was he saying that space itself was expanding, on the basis of Einstein's general theory, or was he assuming a more or less fixed space, with everything in it retreating from everything else? In other words, did he come up with the idea of an expanding universe - as opposed to a fixed framework within which all the players were flying apart - or did someone else draw that conclusion as a result of his observations?
 
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Hubble and Humason did not say that redshifted “nebulae” were receding from us. They left the interpretation of their data to others. See this quotation:

“Mr. Humason and I are both deeply sensible of your gracious appreciation of the papers on velocities and distances of nebulae. We use the term ‘apparent’ velocities to emphasize the empirical features of the correlation. The interpretation, we feel, should be left to you and the very few others who are competent to discuss the matter with authority.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble

One more example of historical evidence, written by Hubble himself, is here:
http://apod.nasa.gov/diamond_jubilee/d_1996/hub_1929.html
 
Yes, Hubble was reluctant to conclude his redshift studies suggested the universe was expanding. He questioned, but, never entirely rejected that interpretation for most of his life.
 
'Opine'? Man, somebody must have gotten a thesaurus for Christmas...
 
Admittedly, I am a logolept.
 

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