Did the Patriots' Alleged Cheating Begin with the Rams' Walkthrough Incident?

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The discussion revolves around the recent Super Bowl game between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants, with participants sharing their reactions, opinions on the game, and speculations about the Patriots' alleged history of cheating, particularly referencing an incident involving the Rams' pre-game walkthrough in 2002.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disappointment over the Patriots' loss, citing factors such as Tom Brady's ankle injury affecting his performance and missed interception opportunities.
  • Others highlight the unexpected nature of the Giants' victory, with comments on the game being a significant upset.
  • There are mentions of the financial implications of the game, with some participants noting how much money was won or lost in betting pools.
  • A participant raises the issue of the Patriots allegedly taping the Rams' walkthrough in 2002, suggesting that this could indicate a pattern of cheating by the team.
  • Some participants share their enjoyment of the game and commercials, indicating a lighter side to the discussion amidst the competitive sentiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a mix of disappointment and surprise regarding the outcome of the game, but there is no consensus on the implications of the alleged cheating or the overall performance of the teams involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various aspects of the game, including player performances and officiating decisions, but these points remain subjective and are not universally agreed upon.

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WOW! I didn't even want to watch the game. But what a game!
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
WOW! I didn't even want to watch the game. But what a game!

Were they the ones in white or blue?
I watched the last 3 minutes. It was a good game.
 
OmCheeto said:
Were they the ones in white or blue?

:smile: I think I love you for asking that question!
 
BIG upset in the final minutes
only followed the scores in the final quater
 
Moonbear said:
:smile: I think I love you for asking that question!

I've been playing beach volleyball for about 25 years now.
I'm only 5'6" with 2 crushed disks.
If I can get up an say "who won", then I consider it a good day.
 
Holy crap Greg, you started the thread already!

It was a damn good game. Loved how everyone rushed on with 1 sec left. Too bad we didn't cripple their quarterback :devil:
 
Lot of bookies are really upset right now
 
Ronnin said:
Lot of bookies are really upset right now

The guy next to me said that his "aquaintance" had just won $9000
So I would go along with that statement.
 
Ronnin said:
Lot of bookies are really upset right now

Yeah, but I won $50 in the office pool...but my hubby had to keep reminding me which team was which...!
 
  • #10
I didn't see it, had to sleep. Born and raised in New England, I was rooting for the Patriots. It comes with the territory. So you can imagine my disappointment.:cry:

Now NE and NY will have another sports rivalry to argue about. Congratulations to Giants this year, but there is always next year.
 
  • #12
I was predicting the Giants to go all the way a month ago. Evidently I should've put money on it.
 
  • #13
Where the Giants the undergods? I don't really follow this, just I had to put up with all the sports channels littered with it =/
 
  • #14
_Mayday_ said:
Where the Giants the undergods? I don't really follow this, just I had to put up with all the sports channels littered with it =/

Apparently the Patriots were favored to win by 12 points. I only saw the score in 3rd quarter, Patriots 7 - Giants 3.
 
  • #15
I looked up from my laptop to watch some commercials...The Tide Pen was my favorite. (The one with the talking stain.)
 
  • #16
larkspur said:
I looked up from my laptop to watch some commercials...The Tide Pen was my favorite. (The one with the talking stain.)

Hank, the Clydesdale, was my favorite.

The dog drinking water was my dog's favorite.
 
  • #17
I am ticked to no end that the Patriots lost. I am a huge Patriots fan, and I really wanted them to win. Brady had stated before the game that the earlier ankle injury would affect his deep throw, and honestly, it did. He did not hit anything that night, and I don't think I have EVER seen Brady throw so off. Also, on the Giant's winning drive, the Patriots had two interception passes go right through our hands. They were way off target, and should have been taken.

So the Patriots gen unlucky, and so what happens then? Eli escapes an inevitable sack, and completes a throw that the reciever catches on his helmet.

Brady had no aim (obviously he was lying about his ankle), the Patriots offensive line (the best in the NFL) could not hold back the Giants, and the Patriots could not even get an interception to stick in their hands.

There were also NUMEROUS game changing fowls that were not called against the Giants, and were not even challenged, and overall, the Giants won off of a sheer chain reaction that was keeping the Patriots from doing what they do best.

This is a HUGE upset.
 
  • #18
Math Jeans said:
So the Patriots gen unlucky, and so what happens then? Eli escapes an inevitable sack, and completes a throw that the reciever catches on his helmet.
That has to be one of the great plays in NFL history.
 
  • #19
It's a historical game. Well worth my chili & baked pita chips gulped down with (bottled) Smithwicks.

Eli Manning was named the MVP; what a turnaround!

The [New York] city is planning to revel in their team's unlikely victory Tuesday. A ticker tape parade is planned on Broadway beginning at 11 a.m., followed by a ceremony at City Hall Plaza.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/04/super.bowl/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Also:
The average cost for a 30-second spot during this year's Super Bowl was $2.7 million, according to Fox, the News Corp.-owned network that broadcast the game. That's up slightly from last year, when the going rate was $2.6 million, and more than double the 1997 price of $1.2 million.
(from the same link)

Can anyone tell which half of the "double" was wasted money?
 
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  • #20
I would have felt good no matter which team won, i do like Tom and the Pats, but living just outside New Orleans when Archie Manning came out of Ole Miss, i watched him spend his entire pro life with a losing team (he was a great QB). Seeing his two sons competing at this level really makes me feel good:biggrin: He has taught them well ( they were so close to playing against each other in the big game).:smile:
 
  • #21
Ehh, The patriots went through the entire season barely *not-losing* virtually every game.

They weren't as lucky in this game as they were in others, and they lost. Finally caught up with them.
 
  • #22
BobG said:
Hank, the Clydesdale, was my favorite.

The dog drinking water was my dog's favorite.
Yes, the Clydesdale was a good one too. I also liked the Planters Cashews one.
 
  • #23
In other news, the Patriots allegedly taped the Rams' pre-game walkthrough in 2002, and they managed to win the Super Bowl as a result. I'm beginning to think that they've been cheating ever since.
 

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