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Hi pf, i have been wondering what differentiates QED Vacuum from QCD Vacuum? How would u explain its implications? I mean, how can u define pure vacuum in 2 ways?
The discussion centers on the differences between the QED (Quantum Electrodynamics) vacuum and the QCD (Quantum Chromodynamics) vacuum, exploring their implications and characteristics in quantum field theory. Participants delve into concepts such as vacuum states, virtual particles, vacuum fluctuations, and the nature of particle presence in these vacuums.
Participants express various viewpoints regarding the nature of the QED and QCD vacuums, with some agreeing on certain characteristics while others introduce differing interpretations and complexities. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the implications and definitions of vacuum states.
Participants mention limitations in understanding and the complexity of the mathematical framework involved in quantum field theory, particularly regarding the definitions and implications of vacuum states in QED and QCD.
The difference is, QED vacuum contains no electrons, while QCD vacuum contains no quarks.dev70 said:Hi pf, i have been wondering what differentiates QED Vacuum from QCD Vacuum?
Ok then, if it is not zero, what is its value?tom.stoer said:##\langle N_s \rangle_\text{vac} = \langle\text{vac} | N_s | \text{vac}\rangle \neq 0##
I was cheating a little bit b/c one does not determine <N> but the (flavor-specific) quark condensate; afaik the (ren.-scheme dep.) values are in the range of 300 MeV3; afaik in two-flavor QCD the value can be related to the pion mass and decay constant via the Gell-Mann–Oakes–Renner relation, e.g. in current algebra and chiral perturbation theory; there should be lattice gauge calculations as well.Bill_K said:Ok then, if it is not zero, what is its value?