Just facts and logic.
What is the use for reformulating a positive right as a negative right?Originally posted by Hurkyl
Every positive right can be reformulated as a negative right.
And I suppose you mean to say there's a right on education and on knowledge that you sanction?
Truth? Truth is defined as "what complies with facts".Originally posted by Shadow
You say facts and logic but how about truth?
How do you base knowledge and information on real occurrences? How does one identify a real occurrence anyways? (And what is a real occurrence? Though I suppose you'll answer this question if you can answer my second question)Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
I would call early sumeria, egypt, Israel or the indus valley cultures where most ancient scriptures are written primative societies, yes. Relative to today, of course. I was not aware that Christianity was born in the USA.I would not call the United States a primative society; no, would zi call most if not all or Euprope a primative society.
That is awfully presumptious of you. I suppose that if I were to offer you absolute proof that God does not exist, you would accept it then? I would think that the case with God is that no absolute proof or disproof exists, since God does not make predictions that can be tested.If I were to offer you, any of you scientific materialist, absolute proof that God or a creator exists, you would not accept it as proof of anything; you would call me at best a misguided fool and at worse a lying deceiver; thus, your precarious position would be safe and secure.
Oh there is a point. There is certainly a point to all this. But not the point you think of - to preach or convert others. It is to broaden minds to possibilities, your own as well as everyone else. It's not about winning. It's about the experience of taking part.There is no point to any of this that can be proved or disproved by anybody.
That is of course clear, and because of that we would not need to strive for stating something absolute. But there is common sense logic that makes it possible to reach a concensus on things.Originally posted by Royce
We all, myself included, keep saying the same things over and over again in thread after thread and none of us will admit that the other has made a point. There is no point to any of this that can be proved or disproved by anybody.
We can always hope. I try, but don't always succeed in not stating any absolutes; but, state one way or another that it is my opinion or belief.Originally posted by heusdens
That is of course clear, and because of that we would not need to strive for stating something absolute. But there is common sense logic that makes it possible to reach a concensus on things.