Different forms of linear equations

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The discussion revolves around the equivalence of two forms of linear equations: \( ax + by = c \) and \( y = mx + c \). Participants are exploring the relationship between the coefficients and constants in these equations and questioning the validity of their teacher's assertion that the constants \( c \) in both forms are the same.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the transformation between the two forms of linear equations and questioning the equality of the constants \( c \). There is a focus on deriving relationships between the coefficients and constants, particularly the implications of dividing terms and the resulting values of \( m \) and \( d \).

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing differing views on the equality of the constants in the two forms of the equations. Some have provided reasoning and derived relationships, while others are still seeking clarity on the matter.

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There is mention of a teacher's assertion regarding the equivalence of the constants, which has not been proven satisfactorily by the participants. The conversation reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the definitions and relationships in linear equations.

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A while back in maths we were introduced to the linear equation in two forms:

[tex]a x + b y = c[/tex] (1)

[tex]y = m x + c[/tex] (2)

Now I can use both forms of these, but I was told that:

[tex]y = m x + c \Leftrightarrow a x + b y = c[/tex]

where [tex]m = \frac{a}{b}[/tex]

Thiis can't be right can it? As:

[tex]a x + b y = c[/tex]

[tex]b y = c - a x[/tex]

[tex]y = \frac{c}{b} - \frac{a x }{b}[/tex]
 
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Obviously the c's in equations 1 and 2 are not the same. They cannot be as you have demonstrated.

Using [tex]y = \frac{c}{b} - \frac{a x }{b}[/tex]

and [tex]y = m x + d[/tex],

then m = [tex]-\frac{a}{b}[/tex] and

d = [tex]\frac{c}{b}[/tex]
 
Astronuc said:
Obviously the c's in equations 1 and 2 are not the same. They cannot be as you have demonstrated.

Thanks. My teacher was saying the two forms are the same (ie: at least "c" in both equations are the same). I couldn't prove it, and nor could she, and we both forgot about it.
 
Both equations represent a line, but the coefficients must be numerically different.

Basically, one is dividing all terms in (1) by the coefficient (b) of y, and to be equal, the m = - (a/b) and c in equation 2 must be c/a, so the c's must be different.
 

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