Differential equation population growth problem

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation related to bacterial population growth, specifically examining the time it takes for the population to grow from its initial size to 100 times that size, given that it triples in a specific time frame. Participants explore the mathematical modeling of this growth using exponential functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the problem and requests assistance in applying the formula for exponential growth, $\displaystyle P(t) = P_oe^{kt}$.
  • Another participant clarifies the differential equation $\dfrac{dB}{dt} = kB$ and suggests solving for the growth constant $k$ using the information that the population triples in 2 hours.
  • A participant calculates $k$ as $\displaystyle k=\frac{\ln(3)}{2}$ and derives the equation for population growth as $\displaystyle B(t)=B_0e^{\frac{\ln(3)}{2}t}$.
  • Participants derive the time $t$ needed for the population to reach 100 times its initial size, leading to the equation $100=3^{\frac{1}{2}t}$ and ultimately finding $t=\frac{2\ln(100)}{\ln(3)}$.
  • One participant reports a calculated time of approximately 8.38 hours, suggesting a conclusion of 10:22 PM, while another participant provides a slightly different calculation, resulting in a time of approximately 8:23 PM.
  • There is a request for verification of the calculations and conclusions drawn by participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical approach and calculations, but there is a discrepancy regarding the final time conclusion, with one participant suggesting 10:22 PM and another correcting it to 8:23 PM. This indicates a lack of consensus on the final time result.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on the assumption that the growth rate remains constant and that the model accurately reflects the population dynamics over the specified time period. There is also an implicit dependence on the accuracy of logarithmic calculations.

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A bacterial population B is known to have a rate of growth proportional to B itself. If between noon and 2pm the population triples, at what time no controls being exerted, should B becomes 100 times? what it was at noon?

using this formula $\displaystyle P(t) \;=\;P_oe^{kt}$

please help me get started. thanks!
 
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Re: differential equation population growth problem

LATEBLOOMER said:
A bacterial population B is known to have a rate of growth proportional to B itself. If between noon and 2pm the population triples, at what time no controls being exerted, should B becomes 100 times? what it was at noon?

using this formula $\displaystyle P(t) \;=\;P_oe^{kt}$

please help me get started. thanks!

The equation we want to work with is $B(t)=B_0e^{kt}$ (just to remain consistent with the variables used in the original problem statement); I'm sure you know that the starting differential equation is $\dfrac{dB}{dt} = kB$, right?

Anyways, the first bit of information helps you find $k$; if we let $t$ represent the number of hours that have passed since noon (with $t=0$ being noon itself), then we know that at 2pm ($t=2$) that the population has tripled; i.e. $B(2) = 3B_0$, where $B_0$ is the initial population. So what you first want to do is solve $3B_0 = B_0e^{2k}$ for $k$.

Once you have $k$, we can now find the time it takes for the population to be $100B_0$, i.e. you'll need to solve the equation $100B_0 = B_0e^{kt}$ for $t$.

For the last part, are you asking how one would go about finding $B_0$? I don't think that's possible in this case unless more information is provided.

Either way, I hope this is enough to help you make progress with this problem; I hope this all made sense! (Smile)
 
Re: differential equation population growth problem

solving for k in $3B_0 = B_0e^{2k}$ I get

$\displaystyle k=\frac{\ln(3)}{2}$

now I'll have

$\displaystyle B(t)=B_0e^{\frac{\ln(3)}{2}t}$

now,

$\displaystyle 100B_0=B_0e^{\frac{\ln(3)}{2}t}$

solving for t i get

$100=3^{\frac{1}{2}t}$

$\ln(100)=\frac{1}{2}t\ln(3)$

$\frac{2\ln(100)}{\ln(3)}=t$

now $t=8.38$hours

so after 8.38 hours the population is 100 times or at 10:22 pm. is it correct?
 
kindly check my answer thanks!
 
LATEBLOOMER said:
kindly check my answer thanks!

Please don't bump the thread by simply repeating something stated in the previous post. We ask that you be patient and wait for a response.

I get $$t=4\log_3(10)\text{ hr}\approx8.38361309715754\text{ hr}$$

But since this is the number of hours after noon, this would be (to the nearest second):

8:23:01 pm
 
Re: differential equation population growth problem

LATEBLOOMER said:
solving for k in $3B_0 = B_0e^{2k}$ I get

$\displaystyle k=\frac{\ln(3)}{2}$

now I'll have

$\displaystyle B(t)=B_0e^{\frac{\ln(3)}{2}t}$

now,

$\displaystyle 100B_0=B_0e^{\frac{\ln(3)}{2}t}$

solving for t i get

$100=3^{\frac{1}{2}t}$

$\ln(100)=\frac{1}{2}t\ln(3)$

$\frac{2\ln(100)}{\ln(3)}=t$

now $t=8.38$hours

so after 8.38 hours the population is 100 times or at 10:22 pm. is it correct?

The math is good, but you want to be careful with your conclusion. The time when the population is 100 times the initial amount is at 8:23pm, not 10:23pm. Other than that, everything else looks great to me. (Smile)
 

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