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Differential equation tank problem

  1. Oct 14, 2006 #1
    I need to find the volume of water in a conical tank as a function of time. I am given that the cone is standing on its point.
    The radius at the top of the cone is 1m and the height of the cone is 4m.
    The height of the water initially is h(0)=0 and h(2)=3.
    I am also told that the top of the cone is open and we are to assume that the water evaporates according to the following model:dV/dt=kA where k is a constant of proportionality and A is the exposed surface area.

    I think I am stuck becuase I am used to working with things likeV'=kV and in the above model we have V's and A's. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jacob
     
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  3. Oct 14, 2006 #2
    Given a cone, can you find a relation between its volume and the area of its base?
     
  4. Oct 14, 2006 #3
    I did that... V=1/48pi(h^3) and A=1/16pi(h^2). But I don't know how to put these in terms of t...
     
  5. Oct 14, 2006 #4
    I was looking for the more general relation, [tex]V = \frac{1}{3}\pi r^2h[/tex]. Can you "find" the area in that?

    I'm not sure I understand that. How can the height of the water increase if we are supposed to assume that water is evaporating??
     
  6. Oct 14, 2006 #5

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    Neutrino, the conical tank has radius 1/4 the height. The cone of water at each level will also have radius 1/4 the height. In that case, [itex]V= \frac{1}{3}\pi r^2h[/itex] becomes [itex]V=\frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{16}\pi h^2 h= \frac{1}{48}\pi h^3[/itex].
    Differentiating that with respect to t gives
    [tex]\frac{dV}{dt}= \frac{1}{16}\pi h^2 \frac{dh}{dt}[/tex]
    Of course the base area is [itex]A= \pi r^2= \frac{1}{16}\pi h^2[/itex].

    Your [itex]\frac{dV}{dt}= kA[/itex] becomes
    [tex]\frac{1}{16}\pi h^2 \frac{dh}{dt}= \pi r^2= k\frac{1}{16}\pi h^2[/tex]
    which reduce to just [itex]\frac{dh}{dt}= k[/itex]!
    Solve that for h as a function of t and plug into [itex]V= \frac{1}{48}\pi h^3[/itex] to get V as a function of t.

    (Like neutrino, I have no idea what you mean by "h(0)= 0 and h(2)= 3".)
     
  7. Oct 14, 2006 #6
    h(0)=4... sorry, those were the initial conditions for the height of the water in the tank
     
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