Differential operators - the rules

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Differential operators can be confusing, particularly when distinguishing between the second derivative notation d²y/dx² and the operator d²/dx². While d²y/dx² represents the second derivative of a function y(x), taking the square root of this does not yield the first derivative dy/dx. In contrast, the operator d²/dx² can be manipulated in a way that seems to produce the first derivative when rooted, but this is due to specific notational conventions in physics. The discussion highlights the differences in mathematical and physical nomenclature, emphasizing that interpretations may vary between disciplines. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for clarity in both mathematics and physics.
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I always get slightly confused with the rules of differentials.

now \frac{d^{2}y}{dx^{2}} is the scond derivative of the function y(x

but rooting this does NOT give the first derivative dy/dx

However, with the operator \frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}, it seems that you can root this and it DOES give the first derivative.

Can someone please explain this to me? I may be wrong, but this seems to be the case in my quantum mechanic notes
 
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Hi randybryan! :wink:

Yes, d2y/dx2 = (d/dx)(d/dx)y, but ≠ [(d/dx)y]2.

It's for the same reason that sin(sin(y)) ≠ [sin(y)]2 :smile:
 
randybryan said:
I always get slightly confused with the rules of differentials.

now \frac{d^{2}y}{dx^{2}} is the scond derivative of the function y(x

but rooting this does NOT give the first derivative dy/dx

However, with the operator \frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}, it seems that you can root this and it DOES give the first derivative.

Can someone please explain this to me? I may be wrong, but this seems to be the case in my quantum mechanic notes
I suspect that your "quantum mechanic notes" (don't hold mathematicians responsible for what a physicist says!:wink:) are using a special notation in which "square root" has some kind of operational definition. That is, "f^2(x)" does not mean f(x) times itself but f(f(x)) and \sqrt{f} is the inverse of that.
 
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Ahh the ongoing feud that is Maths nomenclature vs Physics nomenclature.
 

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