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The discussion focuses on solving two polynomial problems in finite fields. The first problem involves determining the primes p for which x^2 + 1 is a factor of x^3 + x^2 + 22x + 15 in F_p[x]. Participants suggest using polynomial long division and congruence relations to find valid primes. The second problem requires proving that if x^m - 1 has m distinct roots in a field F, then x^k - 1 has k distinct roots in F when k divides m. The approach involves expressing m as nk and analyzing the roots of the polynomial.

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I'm trying to prepare for finals, and these questions have me completely stumped.

Homework Statement


1) For what primes p is x^2 + 1 a factor of x^3 + x^2 + 22x + 15 in F_p[x]? (F_p = finite field with p elements)

2) F a field. Let x^m - 1 have m distinct roots in F, suppose k divides m. Show x^k - 1 has k distinct roots in K.

2. The attempt at a solution

1) Obviously if x^2 + 1 is a factor the other factor must be linear of the form ax + b with coefficients a and b in F_p, a not zero. The only thing I could think of doing is setting up some nasty congruence relations on a and b but they got me nowhere.

2) I don't even know where to start. I don't really see how divisibility plays a role.
 
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I'm not sure, but...

Okay, so for the first one, I'd think you'd just apply the division algorithm for polynomials and then choose p so that your remainder is 0. If this way is right, I think there's only one answer.

For the second one, I'm not sure. Maybe write m as nk for some n and see what happens?
 
I'm not sure but I think for #2 you could write m=ka and then x^ka - 1= 0 has ka distinct roots and then write (x^k)^a - 1 = 0 has ka distinct roots. then we have (x^k)^a=1 and then taking to power a we get x^k=1 and then x^k -1 =0 for k distinct roots. I'm not sure I think it might be the right direction.
 
First off it should be k roots in F, not K.

Mystic I don't see how I find p that way, after all I have no way of figuring out the coefficients of the remainder.

Buzz thanks for your help but that doesn't work.
 
Sure you do. It's just normal polynomial long division. I just didn't want to outright say it.

You know, this seems to be a pattern in my answers lately.
 
Um how am I supposed to do long division if p is arbitrary?
 
Can't you just do it like a polynomial over the integers and then at the end see which p gives you a zero remainder?
 

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