Dimensional analysis - atomic bomb explosion radius

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The discussion revolves around dimensional analysis related to the radius of a shock wave from an atomic explosion, modeled as a function of energy, time, and ambient conditions. Participants are exploring the relationship between these variables and the dimensional consistency of the proposed equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to establish the dimensional homogeneity of the equation relating the radius of the shock wave to energy, time, and density. Questions are raised about the correctness of the expression given in the problem statement and the derived dimensionless variable.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the dimensional consistency of the proposed relationship. Some participants have confirmed the correctness of a dimensionless variable, while others express concerns about the homogeneity of the units involved. The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are noting discrepancies in the units of the terms involved, specifically that the units of the radius do not match those of the derived expression. There is also a reference to external material that may provide further insight into the dimensional analysis.

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Homework Statement

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An atomic explosion can be approximated as the release of a large amount of energy ##E## from a point source. The explosion results in an expanding spherical fireball bounded by powerful shock wave. Let ##R## be the radius of the shock wave and assume that ##R=f(E,T,\rho_0, p_0)## where ##t## is the elapsed time after the explosion takes place, ##\rho_0## is the ambient air density and ##p_0## is the ambient air pressure. Using dimensional analysis show that ##R=\frac{Et^2}{\rho_0}g(\pi_1)## where ##\pi_1## is a dimensionless variable. Choose it so that it involves ##E## to a negative exponent. What is ##\pi_1##?

Homework Equations



##R=f(E,T,\rho_0, p_0)##
##R=\frac{Et^2}{\rho_0}g(\pi_1)## where ##\pi_1## is a dimensionless variable

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is that the relationship does not appear to be homogeneous. If ##\pi_1## is dimensionless, then the units of ##\frac{Et^2}{\rho_0}## must be the same as the units of ##R##. However,

##[E] = ML^2 T^{-2}##
##[t] = T##
##[\rho_0] = ML^{-3}##
##[p_0] = ML^{-1}T^{-2}##
##[R]=L##, where M is express in kilograms, T is in seconds, L is in meters.

What is it that I'm not getting right here?

On the other hand, I expressed ##\pi_1## as follows: ##\pi_1 = \frac{p_0 R^3}{E}##. Is this correct?

Thank you!
 
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vector said:

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is that the relationship does not appear to be homogeneous. If ##\pi_1## is dimensionless, then the units of ##\frac{Et^2}{\rho_0}## must be the same as the units of ##R##. However,

##[E] = ML^2 T^{-2}##
##[t] = T##
##[\rho_0] = ML^{-3}##
##[p_0] = ML^{-1}T^{-2}##
##[R]=L##, where M is express in kilograms, T is in seconds, L is in meters.

What is it that I'm not getting right here?

On the other hand, I expressed ##\pi_1## as follows: ##\pi_1 = \frac{p_0 R^3}{E}##. Is this correct?

Thank you!
yes, it's correct. The dimension ##p_0 R^3## is same for E.
##ML^{-1}T^{-2}## * ##L^{3}## = ##ML^2T^{-2}##
 
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majid313mirzae said:
yes, it's correct. The dimension ##p_0 R^3## is same for E.
##ML^{-1}T^{-2}## * ##L^{3}## = ##ML^2T^{-2}##

Thanks. But do you think the expression given in the problem statement is correct at all? The problem is that ##R## has units of ##L##, but ##\frac{Et^2}{\rho_0}## has units of ##L^{-5}##.
 
vector said:
Thanks. But do you think the expression given in the problem statement is correct at all? The problem is that ##R## has units of ##L##, but ##\frac{Et^2}{\rho_0}## has units of ##L^{-5}##.
unit of ##Et^2## is ##ML^2T^{-2} * T^2## then ##ML^2##
so unit of ##R## is ##\frac{ML^2}{ML{-3}}## = ##L^5##
 
Sorry, I meant ##L^5##. So then the expression is not quite homogeneous. Namely, the units of ##R## are ##L##, but the units of ##\frac{ET^2}{\rho_0}## are ##L^5##. Am I correct?
 
yes , you are. Below file can be useful
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/42045/228875559.pdf?sequence=1
 
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Thanks. So, the ##\frac{ET^2}{\rho_0}## should be raised to the power of 1/5, shouldn't it?
 
vector said:
Thanks. So, the ##\frac{ET^2}{\rho_0}## should be raised to the power of 1/5, shouldn't it?

yes, it's right
 

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