Dimensional analysis. Conversion factor confusion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conversion of miles to centimeters, specifically addressing a homework problem that involves converting 3.25 miles into centimeters. Participants explore the use of different conversion factors and the implications of their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a conversion attempt using the metric prefix system but questions the correctness of their answer compared to the teacher's provided solution.
  • Another participant suggests that the teacher's answer may be incorrect, proposing an alternative answer of 5.23 x 10^5 cm based on their calculations.
  • Hints are provided regarding the equivalence of meters to centimeters, emphasizing that both 1 m = 100 cm and 1 cm = 0.01 m are valid conversion factors.
  • A participant points out a potential error in the original calculation, suggesting that the poster may have neglected to apply the factor '0.01' when using their conversion factor.
  • Another participant speculates that the teacher may have mistakenly used a different mileage value in their calculations.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for confusion in applying conversion factors, with one participant arguing that both methods of conversion could lead to similar mistakes if not carefully considered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the teacher's answer and the calculations performed by the original poster. There is no consensus on which answer is definitively correct, and multiple competing interpretations of the conversion process remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in calculations and the importance of careful application of conversion factors, but do not resolve the discrepancies in the answers provided.

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Homework Statement


How many centimeters are there in 3.25 miles?


Homework Equations


So basically, convert 3.25 mi to cm.


The Attempt at a Solution



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The teacher put the answer for this problem as 5.16 x 10^5 The teacher used:
(1609 m/1 mile)(100 cm/ 1 m) as her conversion factor. Why / how is mine wrong? I used the metric prefixes system to get my conversion factor numbers.

****(This was done with MS Paint so please disregard the 3rd grader hand writing.)
 
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Edin_Dzeko said:

Homework Statement


How many centimeters are there in 3.25 miles?


Homework Equations


So basically, convert 3.25 mi to cm.


The Attempt at a Solution



http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4916/problemwc.jpg
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The teacher put the answer for this problem as 5.16 x 10^5 The teacher used:
(1609 m/1 mile)(100 cm/ 1 m) as her conversion factor. Why / how is mine wrong? I used the metric prefixes system to get my conversion factor numbers.

****(This was done with MS Paint so please disregard the 3rd grader hand writing.)

You have a misplaced decimal point in your answer, but that could be left over from Paint.

Still, I don't know why the teacher's answer isn't 5.23*10^5cm...
 
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Hint: 1 m = 100 cm
 
SteamKing said:
Hint: 1 m = 100 cm

That's equivalent to 1cm = 0.01m, both give perfectly valid conversion factors.

5.23x105 cm it is, there is a mistake in the given answer.

Even google agrees.
 
Okay. Thanks guys. This clears it up.

Here's an exact copy and paste of what the teacher's response was:

3.25 miles (1609 m/1 mile)(100 cm/ 1 m) = 5.16 X 10^5 cm

So my conversion factor wasn't off. I guess it might have been a mistake.
 
The larger point is, by using the conversion 1 cm / 0.01 m in the calculation, the poster multiplied 5229.25 m by 1 cm / 0.01 m. The poster then canceled the 'm' units and neglected to apply the factor '0.01' in the denominator of the conversion factor. If the poster had used the conversion factor 1 m = 100 cm, it should have been readily apparent that the magnitude of the result in cm should be greater than the measurement in m.
 
Edin_Dzeko said:
Okay. Thanks guys. This clears it up.

Here's an exact copy and paste of what the teacher's response was:

3.25 miles (1609 m/1 mile)(100 cm/ 1 m) = 5.16 X 10^5 cm

So my conversion factor wasn't off. I guess it might have been a mistake.

Looks like your teacher accidentally did 3.21 miles instead of 3.25 miles.

Did you move the decimal point in your answer in time to get full credit?
 
SteamKing said:
The larger point is, by using the conversion 1 cm / 0.01 m in the calculation, the poster multiplied 5229.25 m by 1 cm / 0.01 m. The poster then canceled the 'm' units and neglected to apply the factor '0.01' in the denominator of the conversion factor. If the poster had used the conversion factor 1 m = 100 cm, it should have been readily apparent that the magnitude of the result in cm should be greater than the measurement in m.

It doesn't hold water, seems to me it is as easy to forget to divide by 0.01 as it is to forget to multiply by 100. If you have enough experience in both cases it is obvious there is something wrong with the final result order of magnitude. If you lack the experience - you will not see it no matter how long you look.
 

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