Discover the Formula for Calculating Ballistic Range over Uneven Terrain

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on finding a formula for calculating the range of a projectile over uneven terrain, contrasting it with the simpler case of flat ground. Participants explore the complexities introduced by varying ground surfaces and the implications for trajectory calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a lack of a reliable formula for projectile range over non-flat ground, seeking clarification on why such a formula might exist.
  • Another participant suggests that the first intersection of the projectile's trajectory with the ground surface must be computed, noting that there is no general "correct formula" due to the variability of ground surfaces.
  • A different participant provides a specific mathematical model for projectile motion, assuming no air resistance and constant acceleration, and presents equations for the trajectory and range calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single formula for calculating the range over uneven terrain. There are multiple perspectives on the challenges involved, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding a universally applicable solution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions made, such as ignoring air resistance and the nature of the ground surface, which can significantly affect the calculations.

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Hello,
I completely understand the mathematics behind finding the range of a projectile flying over flat ground. But I cannot find a reliable formula for the projectiles range if it is flying over non-flat ground. If someone knows the correct formula and could perhaps explain why it works, it would be most appreciated!
 
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Unredeemed said:
I completely understand the mathematics behind finding the range of a projectile flying over flat ground. [...]

To "completely understand..." would imply that you know how to construct the trajectory of the projectile.

Unredeemed said:
[...] But I cannot find a reliable formula for the projectiles range if it is flying over non-flat ground. If someone knows the correct formula and could perhaps explain why it works, it would be most appreciated!

Simple -- just compute the first intersection of the projectile trajectory and ground surface :)

Having said that, it is clear there can be no "correct formula" in general case, because the ground surface may be any kind of function, such that there is no analytical way to compute the intersection.

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Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић)
 
Unredeemed said:
Hello,
I completely understand the mathematics behind finding the range of a projectile flying over flat ground. But I cannot find a reliable formula for the projectiles range if it is flying over non-flat ground. If someone knows the correct formula and could perhaps explain why it works, it would be most appreciated!

Assuming air resistance is ignored, and you have constant acceleration...

[tex]x(t) = v\cos(\theta)t[/tex]

[tex]y(t) = y_0 + v\sin(\theta)t - \frac{1}{2}gt^2[/tex]

which gives the range (after some algebraic manipulation),

[tex]d = \frac{v\cos(\theta)}{g} \cdot [v\sin(\theta) + \sqrt{[v\sin(\theta)]^2 + 2gy_0}][/tex]

where,

[tex]\theta[/tex] is the launch angle
[tex]y_0[/tex] is the initial launch height
v is the launch velocity
d is the horizontal distance the projectile will travel (i.e. the range)

CS
 
thanks guys, that helps a lot!
 

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