Discover the Power: Total Charge and Max Current of a 250AH Car Battery

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The discussion revolves around understanding the total charge and maximum current that a 250AH car battery can provide. Participants are exploring the implications of the battery's amp-hour rating and how it relates to charge and current over time.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of amp-hours and how to calculate total charge in coulombs. There are questions about the relationship between current, time, and charge, as well as how to apply relevant formulas.

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There is ongoing exploration of the calculations needed to determine the total charge and maximum current. Some participants have provided partial calculations and insights, while others are questioning their reasoning and seeking confirmation of their thought processes.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of battery ratings and the conversions between amp-hours, coulombs, and current over specific time intervals. There is a mention of separating the problems for clarity, and some confusion remains regarding the application of formulas.

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A battery has a rating of 250AH What is the total amount of charge this battery can supply to a cct? And What is the max current this battery can provicde for 5 min?
I don't know what formula's to use?
I have C=QV I=q/t
but I don't which ones to use or even worse where to apply for these
 
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I assume that "AH" is Amp-Hour, which means that the battery can provide: 250 Amp-Hours of charging. By definition, 1 Ampere is 1 Coulomb of charge per second. So how much charge does a 1 Amp current provide in 1 Hour? In 250 hours?

That 250 AH can be delivered over 250 hours (at a current of 1 Amp) or it can be delivered in 1 hours (at 250 Amps). (The greater the current, the quicker you use up the battery.) So what's the maximum current it can deliver for 5 minutes?
 
Lets see If I got this right

250 AH/60min = A/min x 5min= Amp@5min=20.83333 But 1c x 300secs= ? This again is a sticky point. What is the charge in Coulombs? Do I multiply 20.833 by something?
Am I at least on the right train of thought?
 


Originally posted by Magna1
250 AH/60min = A/min x 5min= Amp@5min=20.83333 But 1c x 300secs= ? This again is a sticky point. What is the charge in Coulombs? Do I multiply 20.833 by something?
Am I at least on the right train of thought?
Separate the two problems. First find the total charge delivered by the battery:
Q = 250AH = 250 Amp-Hours = 250 (Coulombs/sec)Hours(3600 sec/hour) = ??

You take it from here.

For the second problem, realize that 5 minutes is 1/12 of an hour.
 
In that case 250AH x 3600=900 000 Then 900 000/300= 3000 A is the answer to the max current?

I think that this is what you were talking about ... yes?
 
Originally posted by Magna1
In that case 250AH x 3600=900 000 Then 900 000/300= 3000 A is the answer to the max current?
Excellent. You found the total charge that the battery could supply (Q = 900 000 C), then used I = Q/t to find the max current. Perfect.
 
Originally posted by Doc Al
Excellent. You found the total charge that the battery could supply (Q = 900 000 C), then used I = Q/t to find the max current. Perfect.

Now it's time to bring in the Ragone (spelling may be incorrect) plot. :wink:
 
Originally posted by NateTG
Now it's time to bring in the Ragone (spelling may be incorrect) plot. :wink:
I think it best if we just skip over that one, NateTG.
 

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