Discrete Math: What's the Best Way to Get Started?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the best approach to learning discrete mathematics, particularly in relation to Velleman's book on the subject. Participants explore the benefits of foundational knowledge in logical connectives, logical equivalences, and set operations, as well as recommendations for introductory texts.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether learning discrete math would be more beneficial than starting with Velleman's book directly.
  • Another participant seeks recommendations for a book that covers logical connectives and operations on sets, indicating they struggle with applying laws to simplify logical expressions.
  • A third participant suggests that while raw logical statements are useful, they may not provide real-life intuition, and emphasizes the importance of learning proofs in the context of discrete math.
  • This participant recommends a specific book for its focus on proofs and exercises, while also noting the potential bias of reviews from computer science students who may not have expected proof-based mathematics.
  • Links to free proof textbooks are provided, although the participant admits they have not personally used them.
  • A fourth participant shares their experience with Hammack's book, describing the exercises as varying in difficulty and the exposition as somewhat wordy, but acknowledges that it may be helpful for some learners.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best starting point for learning discrete math, with some advocating for Velleman's book and others suggesting alternative resources. There is no consensus on which approach or book is definitively better.

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations depend on individual learning styles and prior exposure to mathematical proofs, which may affect the perceived effectiveness of the suggested resources.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in learning discrete mathematics, particularly those seeking foundational knowledge in logic and proofs, may find this discussion relevant.

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Would learning discrete math be more beneficial then diving into velleman's book right away? and what is a good book on discrete math?
 
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well actually I was a little too vague. What I'm looking for is a book that has a good introduction to logical connectives, logical equivalences, operations on sets, etc. Basically what vellemen covers in the first two chapters in his book. I have a semi-good grasp of it but
when I have to solve problems like use the laws in the text to find a simpler and equivalent formula to this for example (P ^R) v [~R ^(P V Q)]. Thats where I am having trouble.
 
Here are a few thoughts:

1) While it is good to play around with the raw logical statements and get used to them, in real life you don't meet things that look that artificial. On the one hand it is really just a kind of algebra (high-school type algebra) where you follow the rules about moving things around. The abstract notation doesn't really give you any intuition about what is going on, though.

2) A discrete math book may or may not be what you are looking for; however, the benefit is finding something to apply your proof-learning toward. Velleman is a pretty good book, but I think learning proofs in the context of some basic discrete math is a great idea.

A book I would recommend:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0131679953/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I know it is very difficult to ignore bad reviews on Amazon, but keep in mind that most of those people are really just annoyed comp-sci majors who are complaining about learning proof-based mathematics they were not expecting. I think it is actually a very good intro book with an emphasis on learning proofs and giving lots of worked examples/exercises. However, don't pay full price. Find a second hand copy somewhere.

The other option is to compare Velleman to some of the free proof textbooks and see if something else is better for your learning style.

http://www.people.vcu.edu/~rhammack/BookOfProof/index.html
http://www.math.vt.edu/people/day/ProofsBook/

I have not personally used either of those books, though, so I can't comment on them.
 
I've worked through many of the exercises in Hammack's book. They range from boring to difficult*. His exposition can be a bit wordy at times, but some people find his style helpful. Since it's free, you should work through some of the sections and see if you like it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't really like it either.

*if this is your first exposure to proofs in mathematics
 

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