Disproving a Polynomial with Integer Coefficients: Elementary Math Proof

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The problem involves disproving the existence of a polynomial with integer coefficients such that the polynomial evaluates to an even number at x=1 and an odd number at x=3. The subject area pertains to properties of polynomials and parity in mathematics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the parity of the polynomial evaluations at specific points and question the validity of assumptions made about the relationship between the values at x=1 and x=3.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of polynomial properties and questioning the assumptions underlying the original statement. Hints have been provided to guide the exploration of the problem.

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Participants are examining the implications of parity and the nature of polynomial functions with integer coefficients, while also addressing the assumptions that lead to contradictions in the proposed scenario.

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Homework Statement


Disprove the following: There exists a polynomial f(x) with integer coefficients such that f(1) is even and f(3) is odd.

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The Attempt at a Solution


It's a little bit intuitive.
Proof
1 and 3 have the same parity. They are both odd
so if(odd)=odd then f(1)=odd and f(3)=odd
or if(odd)=even then f(1)=even and f(3)=even

is that right?
 
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lolo94 said:

Homework Statement


Disprove the following: There exists a polynomial f(x) with integer coefficients such that f(1) is even and f(3) is odd.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


It's a little bit intuitive.
Proof
1 and 3 have the same parity. They are both odd
so if(odd)=odd then f(1)=odd and f(3)=odd
or if(odd)=even then f(1)=even and f(3)=even

is that right?

No, it is not correct, because you are essentially assuming what you want to prove. In order to be able to assert that f(odd) = odd, for example, you need to show that it is not possible to have f(odd1) = odd but f(odd2) = even, etc.
 
Hint: if there was such a polynomial ##f(3)-f(1)## would be both even and odd.
 
geoffrey159 said:
Hint: if there was such a polynomial ##f(3)-f(1)## would be both even and odd.
why would they both be even and odd?
 
lolo94 said:
why would they both be even and odd?
What do you know about ##f(3) - f(1)##?
 
lolo94 said:
why would they both be even and odd?
Let the polynomial be Σpnxn. What does f(3)-f(1) look like?
 

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