Distinguishing between angular bisectors

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The discussion revolves around distinguishing between the angular bisectors of two lines represented by their equations. The original poster presents a mathematical expression for the bisectors and raises questions regarding the conditions for identifying the internal and external bisectors.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster explores the relationship between the coefficients of the line equations and the nature of the bisectors. They inquire if there is a formula to differentiate between the internal and external bisectors, referencing a condition from their textbook.
  • Participants question the derivation of the condition for the external bisector and seek clarification on the relevance of the coefficients to the bisectors themselves.
  • One participant points out a potential formatting issue in the equations presented, suggesting a correction for clarity.
  • Another participant mentions that various approaches to the problem can be found online, encouraging further research.

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Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the application of the coefficients from the line equations to the bisectors, and the original poster expresses uncertainty about the implications of the conditions provided in their textbook.

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Homework Statement

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The following expression stands for the two angular bisectors for two lines :\frac{a_{1}x+b_{1}y+c_{1}}{\sqrt{a_{1}^{2}+b_{1}^{2}}}=\pm \frac{a_{2}x+b_{2}y+c_{2}}{\sqrt{a_{2}^{2}+b_{2}^{2}}}\qquad

Homework Equations


The equations for the two lines are :
##a_1x + b_1y + c_1 = 0~##and ##a_2x + b_2y + c_2 = 0~##

The Attempt at a Solution


One way is to find the slope from the equation for the respective bisectors and then use the slope of one of the given lines and then apply the formula for angle between two lines to check if the bisector is acute or not. I was wondering if there was a more direct way to do this.

My questions :
(A)
Since the two lines can be bisected in two ways, is there a formula to distinguish between the bisector that bisects the external angle and the bisector that bisects the internal or acute angle between the two lines?
My book says that if a_1 * a_2 + b_1 * b_2 > 0 then this refers to the external bisector.
I am stumped by this because : (B) How is this expression arrived at? (C) Since a_1, a_2, b_1, b_2 all refer to the original equations of the two lines and not the bisectors, which bisector do this expression refer to?
 
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JC2000 said:

Homework Statement

:[/B]
The following expression stands for the two angular bisectors for two lines :\frac{a_{1}x+b_{1}y+c_{1}}{\sqrt{a_{1}^{2}+b_{1}^{2}}}=\pm \frac{a_{2}x+b_{2}y+c_{2}}{\sqrt{a_{2}^{2}+b_{2}^{2}}}\qquad

Homework Equations


The equations for the two lines are :
ax_1 + by_1 + c_1 = 0
and ax_2 + by_2 + c_2 = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


One way is to find the slope from the equation for the respective bisectors and then use the slope of one of the given lines and then apply the formula for angle between two lines to check if the bisector is acute or not. I was wondering if there was a more direct way to do this.

My questions :
(A)
Since the two lines can be bisected in two ways, is there a formula to distinguish between the bisector that bisects the external angle and the bisector that bisects the internal or acute angle between the two lines?
My book says that if a_1 * a_2 + b_1 * b_2 > 0 then this refers to the external bisector.
I am stumped by this because : (B) How is this expression arrived at? (C) Since a_1, a_2, b_1, b_2 all refer to the original equations of the two lines and not the bisectors, which bisector do this expression refer to?
Did you mean to write the equations of the two lines as
##a_1x + b_1y + c_1 = 0~##and ##a_2x + b_2y + c_2 = 0~##?
 
kuruman said:
Did you mean to write the equations of the two lines as
##a_1x + b_1y + c_1 = 0~##and ##a_2x + b_2y + c_2 = 0~##?

Yes. I will edit the formatting now...Thanks!
 
It turns out that you can find the answer to this problem on several websites with several different approaches. I recommend that you do the research.
 

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