Distinguishing between Raw Egg and Hard-Boiled Egg

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The discussion revolves around the physical principles explaining the differences in spinning behavior between raw and hard-boiled eggs, specifically focusing on concepts such as moment of inertia, angular velocity, and conservation of angular momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the differences in response between the rigid structure of a hard-boiled egg and the liquid interior of a raw egg. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about the conditions of the spinning eggs and the implications of mass distribution and internal motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the validity of the initial statements regarding the spinning behavior of the eggs. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for careful observation and consideration of the internal dynamics of the eggs, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note the importance of the initial conditions and the potential variability in results based on how the eggs are spun and observed. There is also mention of the need for practical experimentation to better understand the concepts discussed.

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Homework Statement


Why does a hard-boiled egg spin faster than a raw egg?
Why does a raw egg spin longer than a hard-boiled egg?

Can this be explained using moment of inertia, angular velocity and conservation of angular momentum?

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Can this be explained using moment of inertia, angular velocity and conservation of angular momentum?

Or can this be explained only on the basis of the liquid inside the raw egg which keeps on rotating and thus makes the raw egg rotate longer and as it opposes/slides against the inside of the shell, it slows down the egg?

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It is about the difference between the way gooey stuff responds vs how a rigid body responds - also about the mass distribution inside the egg, and the interaction between rigid and gooey stuff.
You have to break down the process involved in each test ... how do the different parts of the egg respond to attempts to change the motion.

It is also hard to spin a raw egg on it's point, and if you touch a hard-boiled egg that is spinning rapidly on it's side so it stops, but very quickly release it, it will resume spinning.

Note: if you have never seen these effects, you should get some eggs and try it. Careful observation will (should) help with your answers.
 
andyrk said:
Why does a hard-boiled egg spin faster than a raw egg?
Clearly that is not a general rule. It must assume something constant about the circumstances. Was there any more text to the question?
andyrk said:
Why does a raw egg spin longer than a hard-boiled egg?
For this one, it may be the same presumed constant circumstance, or maybe this is assuming the same initial spin rate. Either way, I do not believe the statement is true.
What does happen is that if you stop the spinning egg and immediately let go again, the raw egg will resume turning.
http://www.planet-science.com/categories/experiments/magic-tricks/2012/03/spinning-eggs.aspx
 
Admittedly I havn't seen the second one either and I think it refers to the stop-release method.
 
Didn't get that much. Could you please provide a more detailed explanation? If the moment of inertia of of the raw egg increases, how does it effect the velocity with which it rotates?
 
Um, no, the idea is that you do the work.
But it is not entirely about the moment of inertia of the whole egg - but about the different parts, where they are, and how they are connected together.
 

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