Inertia: Internal Forces & Object Motion

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the distinction between internal and external forces in relation to an object's motion, specifically using the example of a spinning raw egg. The textbook asserts that internal forces do not influence an object's motion, while the experiment demonstrates that the inertia of the egg yolk causes the shell to resume spinning after being stopped. This illustrates that internal forces can affect the motion of components within an object, challenging the textbook's assertion. The conversation emphasizes the importance of defining the system boundaries when analyzing forces and motion.

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  • Understanding of Newton's First Law of Motion
  • Familiarity with concepts of internal and external forces
  • Knowledge of angular momentum and energy conservation
  • Basic principles of inertia and motion
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Homework Statement


My textbook says that internal forces have no effect on an object's motion and that external forces are required to change the motion of an object.

But, we looked at an expirement where a raw egg was spun and then stopped. After being stopped, it went back to spinning because the egg yolks inside the shell resisted the change in motion due to inertia and kept moving, causing the egg shell to begin rotating again.

Isn't this an example of an internal force affecting the motion of an object? This doesn't allign with what my textbook said.

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Newton's First Law

The Attempt at a Solution


I have no clue.
 
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Internal forces have no effect on the motion of the center of mass of the object. That is to say that they have no effect on the object's momentum. That does not stop you from throwing your arms forward and having your body move backward as a result.

Internal torques have no effect on the angular momentum of the object. That does not stop you from windmilling your arms forward and generating a backward rotation in the rest of your body.
 
It depends what you mean by "the object".
If you consider the fluid and the shell as separate objects then the forces in question are not internal to either.
If you consider the whole egg as the object then what do you consider its motion to be at any instant? Looking only at the outside does not give the whole picture. After releasing the egg, as the shell starts to rotate again both the total angular momentum of the egg and its total energy remain (almost) constant. (Some of the KE is turning into thermal energy, though.)
 

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