Do All Fractals Exhibit Exact Self-Similarity?

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Fractals can exhibit exact self-similarity, particularly in simple forms like the Sierpinski triangle and Cantor set. The discussion raises the concept of a "simplicity limit," questioning whether there is a threshold beyond which exact self-similarity ceases to exist. It is suggested that self-similarity may scale by rational numbers, while non-self-similar fractals could scale by irrational numbers. However, examples like certain fractals demonstrate that exact self-similarity can occur even with irrational scaling. The overarching inquiry remains whether all fractals possess some degree of exact self-similarity.
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Does self-similarity of fractals ever represent an exact, albeit scaled down, reproduction?
 
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Unless I misunderstand what you mean, yes many simple fractals are of this type. See for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle" .
 
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and cantor set :D
 
Can one define a "simplicity limit" beyond which exact self-similarity does not occur?
 
Loren Booda said:
Can one define a "simplicity limit" beyond which exact self-similarity does not occur?

Care to be more specific? Otherwise, I could define the simplicity limit as "the fractal is exactly self-similar" and get the desired result.
 
CRGreathouse said:
Care to be more specific? Otherwise, I could define the simplicity limit as "the fractal is exactly self-similar" and get the desired result.

Here's a first attempt at specificity:

Does fractal self-similarity scale by rational numbers, and fractals that are not self-similar scale by irrational numbers?
 
Loren Booda said:
Here's a first attempt at specificity:

Does fractal self-similarity scale by rational numbers, and fractals that are not self-similar scale by irrational numbers?

No, since the fractal generated as the limit of

F0 = triangle with unit sides
Fn = F(n-1) plus triangle with sides of length x^n
where all triangles are oriented similarly and share a common point

is exactly self-similar but scales by x which can be chosen to be irrational.
 
Does a Mandelbrot set ever have exact self-similarity, and if not, is there a measure of how close the set comes to it?

My original question should have been: do all fractals have some presence of exact self-similarity?
 
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