Do Complex Objects Have Equations?

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The discussion explores whether complex objects, particularly in architectural design, can be represented by mathematical equations or structures. It examines the relationship between geometry and design in the context of computer-aided design (CAD) software and the potential for mathematical blueprints for various objects.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that while not every complex object has a single equation, there are indeed mathematical structures involved in architectural designs, particularly those that incorporate curves or specific shapes.
  • Others argue that CAD software represents design elements through individual equations, with geometrical primitives like points and lines being fundamental to the representation of objects.
  • One participant mentions that certain architectural designs, like those by Frank Gehry, may require more advanced software to escape traditional geometric constraints, indicating a potential limitation in standard architectural modeling tools.
  • Another participant provides examples of simple equations that can describe specific architectural features, such as horizontal planes and inclined roofs, suggesting that mathematical representations exist for certain aspects of design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the extent to which complex objects can be represented mathematically. While some agree that mathematical structures are involved, others emphasize the limitations of traditional equations in capturing the full complexity of certain designs.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in architectural software and the dependence on specific mathematical definitions and representations. There is also an acknowledgment of the evolving nature of design tools and their capabilities.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in architectural design, computer-aided design, mathematics in engineering, and the intersection of geometry and creative design may find this discussion relevant.

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For example, if someone with an architectural modeling software designed a beautiful mansion or other type of intricate and ornate structure, is there some equation in the computer or some type of mathematical structure to what was designed? Are there potential mathematical blueprints for all possible objects?

Clearly some type of geometry is involved.
 
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In general - no. But there are definitely architectural objects deliberately built around curves (or shapes) described by some interesting functions.
 
Certainly not a sinlgle one, but you could come up with very many. Such as y = 8 ft for a celing. That's a horizontal plane. And y = (8 + x) ft for half of a 45 deg inclined roof. Is that what you mean? You can also calculate how heavy a roof a given frame can support. There are equations for that.
 
I understand that this used to be the case (and may still be mostly) for architecture software, allowing only for surfaces defined by an equation. I remember reading that when he wanted to escape such constraints, Frank Gehry used CAD software built for aviation to get the flexibility he wanted in his designs. He uses numerisation of physical models built from cardboard etc. to input complex shapes into the computer.

(Removed link because it might not be appropriate here. Google "Gehry CATIA")
 
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