Do Different Weights Fall at the Same Speed When Dropped?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of two objects with different weights, specifically a wood ball and a metal ball, when dropped from the same height. Participants explore the effects of gravity and air resistance on their falling speeds, particularly in relation to the concept of terminal velocity.

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  • Participants question whether the weight of the objects affects their falling speed, particularly in the presence of air resistance. They discuss the implications of dropping objects in a vacuum versus in an atmosphere, and the concept of terminal velocity is examined.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between weight, gravity, and air resistance. Some participants express confusion over the original poster's statements, while others clarify that gravity affects all objects equally in a vacuum, leading to the same acceleration. The conversation is productive, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants are considering the effects of air resistance and the conditions under which objects fall, including the assumption that they are dropped from rest and the implications of terminal velocity.

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OK you have 2 objects. Let's say a wood ball, and a metal ball. Both weigh different weights.

Now, both balls are the exact same surface size.

Both balls are dropped from the exact same height, let's say 5 metres

Now, gravity will not have an effect on them based on their speed correct? (example the heavier ball will not drop faster)

Only when terminal velocity is met by either of them, will the weight of the objects then be different.

Is that correct?



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nukeman said:
Now, gravity will not have an effect on them based on their speed correct? (example the heavier ball will not drop faster)

Only when terminal velocity is met by either of them, will the weight of the objects then be different.

Is that correct?
These statements are a bit confusing. Their weights are different--you said that up front.

If you dropped them in a vacuum--no air resistance--then they both would have the same acceleration as they fell.

However, given air resistance, they will not have the same acceleration.

If they were to reach terminal velocity, then their accelerations would be zero.
 
Doc Al said:
These statements are a bit confusing. Their weights are different--you said that up front.

If you dropped them in a vacuum--no air resistance--then they both would have the same acceleration as they fell.

However, given air resistance, they will not have the same acceleration.

If they were to reach terminal velocity, then their accelerations would be zero.

I always thought that when you drop 2 objects, they will fall at the same speed?
 
Now, gravity will not have an effect on them based on their speed correct? (example the heavier ball will not drop faster)

Only when terminal velocity is met by either of them, will the weight of the objects then be different.

I think you are getting things backward.

The very reason they are getting a speed (when dropped from rest) is because gravity has an effect. There is acceleration due to gravity, to be more precise.
What you meant is, that this acceleration is the same for all objects and therefore they will always have same velocity.

You also speak about a terminal velocity, but in theory, the velocity will always keep on increasing. The reason that this does not happen in practice, is because there is usually inconvenient stuff like air around, which exerts a frictional force in the opposite direction. Since, unlike gravitational force, friction does not depend on the mass of the objects, it will be different and they will get different speeds (a.k.a. "heavy things fall faster"). In fact this is the reason of the objects having a terminal - i.e. maximal - velocity, not an effect of it.
 
nukeman said:
I always thought that when you drop 2 objects, they will fall at the same speed?
Ignoring air resistance, they will. They have the same acceleration due to gravity, and thus will have the same increase in speed as they fall.
 

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