What is the Correct Calculation for h/H When Ball A Collides with Ball B?

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The problem involves a scenario where Ball A is dropped from a height H and Ball B is thrown upwards from the ground. The focus is on determining the height h at which they collide, given that at the moment of collision, Ball A has twice the speed of Ball B.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the speeds of the two balls at the moment of collision, with one participant noting a discrepancy in their calculations regarding the speed of Ball A compared to Ball B. Others explore alternative methods, including the use of relative velocity and simultaneous equations to express the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning their assumptions about the speed relationship and exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of simultaneous equations, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants mention difficulties in formatting equations and express uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the speed relationship at the time of collision.

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Homework Statement


Ball A is dropped from rest from a building of height H exactly as ball B is thrown up vertically from the ground. When they collide A has twice the speed of B. If the collision occurs at height h, what is h/H?

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(I would type them out put I can't format them properly, sorry)

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I did everything as in the example, but then I got to the part where we compare the speeds. The formula (red arrow) show that at the time of impact, the speed of A is 4 times greater than speed of B. But in the problem, it states that the speed of A is only twice the speed of B. So my understanding is that there should be a 2 instead of a 4. Am I missing something?
 

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Juliusz said:
Am I missing something?

The equation is in ##v^2##.
 
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Ah, I think I see. So it can be written like this?
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Alternate method based on relative velocity of A and B as well as the speed relation when they collide:

Solve simultaneously for H and t (in terms of u - initial velocity of B - and g):

t = H/u ......Eqn 1
2(u-gt) = gt ....Eqn 2

Then h = ut - 0.5 g t^2.
 

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