Do I Need to Include Mounted Weights When Calculating Shaft Critical Speed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether the weight of members mounted on a shaft, such as gears and pulleys, should be included when calculating the critical speed of the shaft. The context includes theoretical considerations related to resonances and natural frequencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the weight of mounted members should be included in the calculations for critical speed, as it affects the natural frequency of the system.
  • One participant emphasizes the need for clarity in the question and suggests that the critical speed refers to resonances, indicating that all weights influence the natural frequency.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of including all weights in the summations, stating that they must move with the shaft during whirling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the weight of mounted members should be included in the calculations, but there is some ambiguity regarding the specific context and definitions of critical speed.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of explicit definitions and context in the initial question, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The relationship between critical speed and natural frequency is also not fully explored.

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For the critical speed of the shaft, should I include the weight of the members mounted on the shaft (gears, pulleys, etc.) with the forces acting on it?
 
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Ballena Joseph said:
For the critical speed of the shaft, should I include the weight of the members mounted on the shaft (gears, pulleys, etc.) with the forces acting on it?

I wish you would be more explicit in your questions and give the context of what you are asking about.

Do you mean the critical speed as in resonances? Ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_speed

If so, then yes. Everything mounted on the shaft changes the natural frequency.
 
anorlunda said:
I wish you would be more explicit in your questions and give the context of what you are asking about.

Do you mean the critical speed as in resonances? Ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_speed

If so, then yes. Everything mounted on the shaft changes the natural frequency.
Critical speed of the shaft with given deflection and weight. From the formula: nc = (30/π)(ΣWy/ΣWy2)½
 
You most definitely need to include all the weights mounted on the shaft inthe summations. When the shaft whirls, they must move with it.
 
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