Do probabilities for entangled polarization states add up to one?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the probabilities associated with the measurement outcomes of entangled polarization states of photons. Participants explore whether the probabilities of different polarization outcomes add up to one, considering the implications of measurement axes and the normalization of quantum states.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the probabilities for the outcomes of photon polarization measurements must add up to one, arguing that all possible outcomes are accounted for.
  • Another participant suggests that certain terms in the probability expression must be zero due to the alignment of detectors, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the measurement setup.
  • A different participant clarifies that the detectors may not be aligned with the vertical axis and could be at different angles, suggesting that the probabilities need not be zero.
  • One participant confirms that the sum of the four probabilities must equal unity, asserting that they are mutually exclusive and collectively cover all possible outcomes.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the state is normalized to one and discusses the orthonormal system formed by the polarization states, providing a mathematical justification for the probability sum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While some participants agree on the normalization and the requirement for the probabilities to sum to one, there is disagreement regarding the specific terms that should be considered zero based on the measurement setup.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the alignment of measurement axes and the assumptions made about the state of the system. There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific configurations of the detectors and the implications for the probabilities.

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Two photons are moving in opposite directions along the y-axis are in the entangled polarization state
|Ψ> = (1/√2)(|VV>+|HH>)
V is vertical polarization relative to the z axis and measured from an axis n1 and is defined as θ=θ1 and H is horizontal polarization to the z axis measured from an axis n2 and is defined as θ=θ2.

Would PVV+PHH+PVH+PHV=1

If PVV is the probability that photon 1 givees vertical polarization relative to an axis n1 and photon 2 gives vertical polarization relative to an axis n2

Am I correct in saying this as there is no way to predict the outcome of a spin measurement and so those probabilities must add to one as they are all the options available and the choice of axis does not matter??
 
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For the state given your third and fourth terms must be zero.
 
Jilang said:
For the state given your third and fourth terms must be zero.
The detectors are not aligned with the vertical axis and not necessarily at the same angle, in OP's statement of the problem, so those two probabilities need not be zero.

It is correct that the sum of the four probabilities must add to unity - they are mutually exclusive and collectively cover all possible outcomes.
 
Ah yes I get it now. The V and H have morphed!
 
To say it very clearly, the assumed formula is correct. The state is properly normalized to 1, i.e., ##\langle \psi|\psi \rangle =\|\psi\|^2=1##. Since ##|VV \rangle##, ##|HH \rangle##, ##|HV \rangle##, and ##|VH \rangle## together build an orthonormal system, i.e.,
$$\langle ab|a'b' \rangle=\delta_{aa'} \delta_{b b'}, \quad \sum_{a,b} |a,b \rangle \langle b,a| =1,$$
you indeed have
$$\langle \psi|\psi \rangle=1=\sum_{ab} \langle \psi |ab \rangle \langle ab|\psi \rangle=\sum_{ab} |\psi_{ab}|^2 = \sum_{ab} P_{ab}.$$
As very often in quantum theory, you can derive a lot from clever insertions of decompositions of the unit operator :-)).
 

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