Do the vacuum states created by soft photons have vacuum flu

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The discussion revolves around the concept of vacuum states created by soft photons and whether these states exhibit vacuum fluctuations. Participants explore the implications of introducing soft photons into a vacuum and the nature of vacuum fluctuations in quantum field theory (QFT).

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  • Some participants propose that introducing a soft photon into a vacuum results in a zero energy vacuum state and question whether this state exhibits vacuum fluctuations.
  • Others argue that introducing any photon, regardless of its energy, means the vacuum is no longer present, suggesting that what is termed "vacuum fluctuations" are actually fluctuations of electromagnetic and matter fields.
  • One participant asserts that soft photons do not create vacuum states, claiming there is only one vacuum state for each observer, which contains no particles.
  • A later reply humorously suggests reading an article to address misconceptions about vacuum fluctuations, indicating a perceived misunderstanding among participants.

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Participants express differing views on whether soft photons can create vacuum states and whether vacuum fluctuations can occur in such contexts. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are limitations regarding the definitions of vacuum states and fluctuations, as well as the assumptions about the nature of soft photons and their effects on the vacuum.

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Putting a soft photon in vacuum will result in a zero energy vacuum state. Despite the zero energy, has this state vacuum fluctuations?

Putting more of these photons will result in more vacuum states. Would they have vacuum fluctuations as well resulting in more vacuum flctuations? A total amount of multiple vacuum fluctuations?
 
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Putting a photon (no matter how soft it may be) means that you don't have a vacuum anymore. What's called "vacuum fluctuations" in popular-science writing are, from the point of view of "real science", fluctuations of the electromagnetic and matter fields. Ironically the vacuum state (ground state not containing any excitations) is the one thing in QFT that doesn't fluctuate at all.

We have many interesting discussions on this issue in this forum and also in the Insights:

https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/vacuum-fluctuation-myth/
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/vacuum-fluctuations-experimental-practice/
 
Soft photons don't create vacuum states. There is only one vacuum state for each observer, and this state contains no particles, hence no soft photons.
 
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