Do We Live in Matter or in Our Vision of Matter?

In summary, this conversation discusses the idea that humans do not live in the realm of matter, but rather in our vision of it. This vision is immaterial, while matter itself is existent. This is evident in the fact that humans instinctively know emotions and feelings, but must study the laws of matter. Additionally, our minds are not evolved from matter, as shown by our greater understanding of our emotions and feelings compared to our physical bodies. This suggests that we are not solely physical beings, but also have a moral and psychological existence. However, this thread does not meet the requirements to be posted in this forum or any other forum.
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Warraq
We do not live in matter, we live in our vision of it. Else we would have known matter instinctively.

We live through our vision of the world, and this vision is immaterial. Matter, however, is existent. If we humans were originally material we wouldn’t need to study the laws of matter. We don’t study the laws of feelings; we instinctively know beauty, but we don’t instinctively know chemistry or geometry. This proves that we live in the realm of the soul not in the realm of matter. Everyone knows what is sad or funny without having to be given an introductory course in the comedy theater for example. But no one knows the components of the simple matter in front of them except through difficult study of physics. Even though if the causes of laughter are studied they would become a difficult science, how about the rest of moral, mental and psychological phenomena that everyone knows easily?

We are not products of matter, our minds are not evolved from matter even if we have material neurology. The nervous system is only a channel connecting our moral (immaterial) existence with our material existence.

It is a quite sufficient proof for this that man knows their mood, feelings and emotions better than their body. Almost all people go to the physician, but a lot less see the psychiatrist, which reveals the difference of percentage on the scale of knowledge. If you are in a psychological pain you can often identify the problem, but you don’t know what is going on when you have a back pain or shortness of breath except through what the doctor told you, let alone knowing the cure. Your diagnosis for your emotional problem is easier than diagnosing your physical problem. For example, you know that you are suffering from feelings of alienation for sure, but you don’t know that you are suffering from a blockage in the gall bladder except through what you learned from the doctor, and the doctor knew through what the tests and symptoms showed him/her .
That is why even though we have physical bodies, we are not only physical.
 
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FAQ: Do We Live in Matter or in Our Vision of Matter?

1. What is the difference between living in matter and living in our vision of matter?

Living in matter refers to the physical reality of our existence, where our bodies are made up of atoms and molecules that interact with other physical objects. On the other hand, living in our vision of matter refers to our perception and understanding of the physical world through our senses and cognitive processes.

2. How do our perceptions shape our understanding of matter?

Our perceptions are influenced by our senses, experiences, and cultural backgrounds. These factors can all impact how we interpret and understand the physical world. For example, different cultures may have different beliefs and interpretations of natural phenomena based on their cultural and societal norms.

3. Are our perceptions of matter accurate?

It is difficult to determine the accuracy of our perceptions, as they are highly subjective and can be influenced by various factors. However, through scientific methods and research, we can gain a better understanding of the physical world and validate our perceptions to a certain extent.

4. Can we ever truly know the reality of matter?

It is a philosophical debate whether we can ever truly know the reality of matter. While our senses and cognitive processes may provide us with information about the physical world, there are limitations and biases that can affect our understanding. Additionally, the concept of reality itself is subjective and can vary from person to person.

5. How does quantum mechanics play a role in our understanding of matter?

Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics that studies the behavior of matter and energy at a microscopic level. It has led to discoveries and theories that challenge our traditional understanding of matter, such as the wave-particle duality and the uncertainty principle. As our understanding of matter evolves, so does our perception of it.

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