High School Do we need another language other than math?

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The discussion centers on whether mathematics is sufficient to understand the quantum world, with some suggesting that a different "language" might be necessary. One participant argues that math, being a human construct, effectively describes reality, including quantum phenomena. They emphasize that if current mathematical models fail, new mathematical frameworks can be developed to address these complexities. The conversation also touches on the idea that any alternative language would still fundamentally be a form of mathematics. Ultimately, the thread concludes that further discussion may lead to repetition of existing points.
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Hi, a little question.
What if mathematics can't be used to understand the quantum world because, quantum world is the building blocks of mathematics? What if there's another "language" we need to use to interpret "the manual" on how to use the building blocks of the quantum world?



Sorry about the philosofical questions.

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Ten5ion said:
Hi, a little question.
What if mathematics can't be used to understand the quantum world because, quantum world is the building blocks of mathematics?
I can't see any way that that even makes sense. Math is a man-made construct that is independant of reality. Fortunately for us, it ends up doing a phenomenally good job of describing reality but remember the map is not the territory.
 
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Ten5ion said:
What if mathematics can't be used to understand the quantum world
But it demonstrably can be used
 
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Ten5ion said:
Hi, a little question.
What if mathematics can't be used to understand the quantum world because, quantum world is the building blocks of mathematics? What if there's another "language" we need to use to interpret "the manual" on how to use the building blocks of the quantum world?

If there's something that can't be modeled by existing math, we'll just make new math.
 
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Math is the process of understanding the underlying patterns we see everywhere. If we were to use a different language to do so it would still be math just in a different form. Math notation reduces the complexities and subtleties done to something more manageable so that we can delve further into a problem because we trust the notation and its rules of operation.

NOVA did a great documentary on it:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/the-great-math-mystery/

Having said that, I think its time to close this thread as there's nothing more that can be said that hasn't already been said without repeating what has been said in a different way if you understand what I mean in a non-mathematical context.
 
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