Doctorate in Physics: Gaps & Requirements for Ex-Engineer

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The discussion revolves around the requirements and potential gaps for an individual with a master's in mechanical engineering seeking to pursue a doctorate in physics. It explores the necessary background in physics coursework and the feasibility of transitioning from engineering to physics graduate studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the adequacy of their physics background for entering a doctorate program, questioning whether the gap from an engineering background is too significant to bridge without earning a new undergraduate degree.
  • Another participant notes that the extent of required physics coursework depends on the individual's prior education, mentioning that several mechanical engineers have had to take additional courses before starting graduate work in physics.
  • A minimum preparation suggested includes classical mechanics, electricity & magnetism, mathematical methods, modern physics, and quantum mechanics.
  • It is proposed that if the individual does not meet program requirements, they might consider taking graduate courses as a non-degree student to strengthen their application.
  • One participant highlights that the area of interest in physics (theoretical vs. experimental) will influence the amount of background coursework needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific requirements for transitioning from engineering to physics, as opinions vary on the necessary background and the implications of different areas of focus within physics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of preparedness among individuals transitioning from engineering to physics, with no definitive guidelines established for all cases. The specific requirements may depend on the chosen area of specialization within physics.

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I am new here and thought maybe someone could offer some information. I currently have a masters in mechanical engineering and thought how nice it would be to go back for a doctorate in physics. How far have I strayed from the basic requirements to enter a doctorate program, after finishing an engineer program, and is the gap too big to make up for the deficiencies? I would hope it doesn't require earning a completely new undergrad degree first.

I am not worried about using it to find work as that is completely under control. I would only be doing it for myself. I wanted the physics degree previously, but went the engineering route for the sake of job possibilities. I want that second chance now if I can get it. I have written to the physics department asking this same question, but have not heard back yet.
 
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It depends. How much physics did you take as an undergrad? Several mechanical engineers have entered our physics grad dept in the last few years, and they were scurrying to make up for missed courses. In some cases, it was a full year or more before they could even begin graduate coursework. A minimum preparation in physics would be something like the following: classical mechanics, electricity & magnetism, 2 semesters of mathematical methods, modern physics, and quantum mechanics.

If you don't meet the requirements of the program you want to attend, you can usually take graduate courses as a non-degree student for a while. If you do well in them, you can use this as leverage when you apply to the program.
 
hglucky said:
I am new here and thought maybe someone could offer some information. I currently have a masters in mechanical engineering and thought how nice it would be to go back for a doctorate in physics. How far have I strayed from the basic requirements to enter a doctorate program, after finishing an engineer program, and is the gap too big to make up for the deficiencies? I would hope it doesn't require earning a completely new undergrad degree first.

I am not worried about using it to find work as that is completely under control. I would only be doing it for myself. I wanted the physics degree previously, but went the engineering route for the sake of job possibilities. I want that second chance now if I can get it. I have written to the physics department asking this same question, but have not heard back yet.

You may want to start by reading this thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=64966

Zz.
 
It also depends on what area you are interested in.
Obviously if you want to do theoretical physics you are going to need to do a lot more background courses than if you want an experimental physics Phd mainly focussed on building some apparatus.
 

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