Does a positron in Beta+ decay interact with electrons outside the nucleus?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of positrons produced in Beta+ decay, specifically whether they interact with electrons outside the nucleus and the implications of such interactions. Participants explore concepts related to particle-antiparticle annihilation, scattering processes, and the distinctions between different types of interactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that when a positron is emitted during Beta+ decay, it typically loses energy by interacting with surrounding electrons and nuclei before annihilating with an electron.
  • There is a suggestion that the annihilation of a positron with a ground state electron may be indistinguishable from the process of electron capture, raising questions about the definitions and distinctions between these processes.
  • Participants propose that other interactions, such as elastic and inelastic scattering, could also occur depending on the energy of the positron.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the physical distinctions between annihilation and electron capture, indicating a need for further exploration of the photon emissions involved in these processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the interactions between positrons and electrons, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining regarding the definitions and outcomes of these interactions.

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The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the nuances of particle interactions, particularly in distinguishing between annihilation and other scattering processes, as well as the dependence on specific definitions and energy conditions.

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Hi guys,
Well I read about Anti Matter, and i came across the term Anti particle and how a positron is the antiparticle of an electron, so when a particle and an antiparticle meet they're supposed to annihilate each other.
So in case of a Beta+ decay where a proton is converted into a positron in the nuclei, does the postiron enter in contact with the electrons once it's out of the nuclei?
I hope it's not too ambiguous and I'm looking forward to an answer.
 
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Jabberwockk said:
so when a particle and an antiparticle meet they're supposed to annihilate each other.
This is one option that can happen.
Jabberwockk said:
So in case of a Beta+ decay where a proton is converted into a positron in the nuclei, does the postiron enter in contact with the electrons once it's out of the nuclei?
Usually it flies away, loses some energy by "colliding" with electrons and nuclei in the surrounding matter, and only when it lost most of its energy it annihilates with an electron somewhere. Positron emission tomography uses the produced radiation for imaging.
 
I can't think of a valid reason as to why an emitted positron annihilating with a ground state electron isn't physically indistinguishable from electron capture?
 
mfb said:
This is one option that can happen.

Is the other option elastic scattering?

Stephen Hodgson said:
I can't think of a valid reason as to why an emitted positron annihilating with a ground state electron isn't physically indistinguishable from electron capture?

That's beyond what I know xD
 
Stephen Hodgson said:
I can't think of a valid reason as to why an emitted positron annihilating with a ground state electron isn't physically indistinguishable from electron capture?
It's probably a matter of definition, you could study the photon emission (1 or more? energies?) to split it in categories.

Jabberwockk said:
Is the other option elastic scattering?
And inelastic scattering, if the energy is sufficient.
 

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