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The discussion revolves around the concept of particle-antiparticle annihilation, specifically addressing the properties of antiparticles, their energy and mass characteristics, and the outcomes of annihilation events. Participants explore theoretical implications, misconceptions, and the nature of energy conservation in these processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether antiparticles possess negative energy and mass, suggesting that this leads to confusion regarding their properties.
  • Others clarify that antiparticles have positive mass-energy and that their masses are identical to their corresponding particles, countering the misconception of negative mass.
  • It is noted that annihilation involves the conversion of the total mass-energy of both particles into energy, which can manifest as photons or other bosons.
  • Participants discuss the terminology surrounding annihilation, indicating that different reactions may be referred to as annihilation under varying contexts.
  • Some contributions emphasize that the charge of antiparticles is opposite to that of their corresponding particles, but this does not imply negative mass or energy.
  • There is mention of specific outcomes in hadron annihilations, which may produce pions and other particles, highlighting the complexity of annihilation events.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that antiparticles have positive mass-energy and that annihilation results in energy release. However, there remains disagreement regarding the implications of energy and mass characteristics, as well as the terminology used to describe annihilation processes.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about energy conservation and the nature of annihilation events are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the specifics of energy transformation and the types of particles produced in various annihilation scenarios.

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I have some basic confusion on the annihilation, please help me to understand these:

1 Does antiparticles all have negative energy? And the energy we talking about here is the rest mass energy? If it is, does it means antiparticles have negative mass since E=mc^2 ?

My understanding on annihilation is simply two particles (one normal, one anti) collide, vanish and form new particles (photon or other bosons) to conserve momentum and energy.

2 If the answer to question 1 is yes and yes, then I assume the rest mass energy are cancelled, the new particles only have the kinetic energy of the old ones? And what if the kinetic energy of the old particles are not enough to form a new pair?

Please correct me if there is any mistake, thanks
 
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No, antiparticles do not have negative energy and negative mass.
 
kdlsw said:
1 Does antiparticles all have negative energy? And the energy we talking about here is the rest mass energy? If it is, does it means antiparticles have negative mass since E=mc^2 ?
All particles, both "normal" and "anti", have positive energy. The masses of the particle and its antiparticle are always the same. (And before you ask, no, antiparticles do not travel backwards in time. :smile:)

Some particles, like the photon, are their own antiparticle. Others, like the gluon, are distinct from their antiparticle but you can't say which is normal and which is anti. (The antiparticle of a gluon is a gluon of a different color.)

My understanding on annihilation is simply two particles (one normal, one anti) collide, vanish and form new particles (photon or other bosons) to conserve momentum and energy.
The terminology is not always consistent. For example, the reaction e+ + e- → ν + ν-bar is also sometimes called annihilation. And W+ + W- → (whatever) is usually referred to as vector boson fusion.
 
This is a very common misconception. Anti particles actually have masses identical to their particles (the mass of a positron is identical to the mass of an electron, for instance). In fact there is no particularly important reason to call a particle matter and the other one antimatter. It's just a convention and the reverse convention would be just as good.
 
Antiparticles do, in fact, have a positive mass-energy. It's just their charge which is negative.

An annihilation is when a particle collides with its antiparticle. This collision turns the entire mass-energy of both the particles into energy. That is, all the rest mass, all the kinetic energy, everything, is converted into energy, which will then be released carried by a boson or bosons (we'll say photons).
These photons will have a total energy equal to the total energy of the particles and antiparticles (including the energy of its rest mass given by Einstein's formula of relativity, kinetic energy, and any other energy it possesses. I believe this would include the energy of the strong force between quarks if the annihilation was of a hadron).
Their total momentum will also be equal to the momentum of the particles which were annihilated.
 
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Reallyfat said:
It's just their charge which is negative.
Inverted, not negative. And that is true for all sorts of charges, not just the electric one.
Electrons are counted as matter and have a negative (electric) charge, while positrons (their antiparticles) have a positive charge.

An annihilation is when a particle collides with its antiparticle. This collision turns the entire mass-energy of both the particles into energy. That is, all the rest mass, all the kinetic energy, everything, is converted into energy, which will then be released carried by a boson or bosons (we'll say photons).
Or other particles.

I believe this would include the energy of the strong force between quarks if the annihilation was of a hadron).
Sure.
Hadron annihilations usually produce a few pions and sometimes other particles.
 

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