Does anyone here eat at McDonald's

[Evo]

Don't forget fast food like Boston Market (I could live on their creamed spinach), that's got to be more unhealthy than a Big Mac with all that cream, butter and cheese in it.

 

[ShawnD]

Don't forget fast food like Boston Market (I could live on their creamed spinach), that's got to be more unhealthy than a Big Mac with all that cream, butter and cheese in it.

Not if you're on Atkins

I don't think those are in Canada yet. Give us a few years to catch up

 

[Chi Meson]

I think Boston Market is cutting back. The one around us closed down two years ago; I think it was Atkins that fired the coup de grace.

Anecdote: during a road trip, my wife and I decided to stop at McDonalds for a quick lunch. We each got the double cheeseburger meal, supersized. Both of us nearly threw up just like that guy in the movie. That was five years ago and we have not been to any since.

2 cents on the carnivore subthread: we have recently begun buying kosher poultry and beef. The chicken is especially better than standard supermarket fare. Now if only we could find some kosher pork.

 

[Danger]

Now if only we could find some kosher pork.

That could be an interesting quest. Keep us informed of your progress.

 

[Kerrie]

Technically, why would eating organs be so much worse than eating cow meat?

I thought hot dogs and sausage were made of organs and "leftover" parts? So if McD's uses this stuff, it's not much different then having a bologna sandwich...

I compared the prices of Wendy's and McD's one day...not only does Wendy's taste better, but they are more affordable if you really do need a cheap meal fast. That whole finger thing was just a hoax too, so it didn't stop me from choosing Wendy's.

 

[Moonbear]

I thought hot dogs and sausage were made of organs and "leftover" parts? So if McD's uses this stuff, it's not much different then having a bologna sandwich...

Well, there's no way getting around sausage casing being intestines. The whole reason they include the organs in that little packet when you buy chicken is that people do eat them, or use them to flavor gravy or stuffing. Personally, I used to cook them up as dog food (didn't want to take a chance feeding it to the dog raw) because I don't like those things, but there's nothing wrong with eating it. But, then, that's why, like Chi Meson, I prefer Kosher hot dogs, because I know they are all beef, not fillers (in Kosher foods, they can't use the "by-products"). As for sausage, that shouldn't be any fillers. It should be pork and/or beef, a lot of fat, and spices. Changing the ratios of pork, beef and fat along with the spices used are what give you your variety of sausages. I keep thinking it would be fun to start making my own sausage, especially since the hot italian sausage around here doesn't get very spicey and seems to have some sort of orangey-red dye in it (unless they're giving it a heavy dose of paprika, which doesn't belong there either, it just doesn't look right to me).

I compared the prices of Wendy's and McD's one day...not only does Wendy's taste better, but they are more affordable if you really do need a cheap meal fast. That whole finger thing was just a hoax too, so it didn't stop me from choosing Wendy's.

Yes, out of all the fast food burger places, I prefer Wendy's, but that's because I like both their burgers AND their fries. I like McDonalds fries but their burgers aren't anything great, while Burger King has really tasty burgers, but horrid fries. Besides, I feel like I'm being a little healthy by getting a burger with some vegetables on it.

Did they ever find out where that finger came from? I know that woman was arrested, but last I heard, she wasn't saying where she got the finger from. I don't even know why it took so long to sort out. Afterall, one glance should be able to tell you if it had been cooked into a pot of chili or not.

 

[Evo]

Did they ever find out where that finger came from? I know that woman was arrested, but last I heard, she wasn't saying where she got the finger from. I don't even know why it took so long to sort out. Afterall, one glance should be able to tell you if it had been cooked into a pot of chili or not.

What I saw on the news was that a co-worker or friend had their finger tip bitten off.

 

[Moonbear]

What I saw on the news was that a co-worker or friend had their finger tip bitten off.

Bitten?! Hopefully not by that woman who planted it!

 

[JamesU]

That's why I dont' eat fast food, they got fingers! There was a guy who got custard from a fast-food restaerant and he really did find a finger!

I really don't go out to eat unless it's chili's.

 

[Chi Meson]

Someone brought up sausages; with my scottish heritage, I get annoyed when people bring up the haggis thing: "Ewww, do you know what they put in haggis?" Essentially all parts of a sheep are used (no need to list them all) and traditionally it is then stuffed into the stomach lining and then boiled. Well, what the heck difference is that from any English German or Italian sausage? The European cultures ate the whole thing! WHen they were down to the bones, they boiled them and made stew! I'm not familiar with the culinary cultures of other continents, but I'll bet all meat eaters learned to eat the entire animal (the parts they couldn't eat, they wore). I see this as the most responsible use of livestock: waste nothing.

 

[brewnog]

I'm surprised black pudding hasn't been mentioned yet...

 

[russ_watters]

Does anyone here eat at McDonald's? Does anyone here eat at McDonald's Since the movie Super Size Me?

I ate at McD's the day after I saw the movie (last Sunday) on general principle. No, I did not supersize.

 

[russ_watters]

Oh, and the thing that irks me most about hippies is that they lie. Whoever gave you these "facts" pulled a fast one on you.

-McDonald's is said to be the world's largest purchaser of cow eyeballs.

Ok, "is said" means...nothing!

-McDonald's salads have more fat calories than Big Macs

Really? Maybe you could check... http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.index1.html In fact, the Big Mac has 30, but there are only six combinations (of a possible 40) of salads and dressings that get you over 30g. The vast majority have less than half.

-That tiny McGriddle is the most fattening thing there.

There are 3 McGriddle's - the one with the most has 48grams. A 5pc Chicken select has 51.

Ya know - I was thinking of eating at Subway today, but I think I'll eat at McDonald's instead...

 

[russ_watters]

Technically, why would eating organs be so much worse than eating cow meat?

Simple: it sounds worse to a hippie who is trying to create an emotional reaction.

yomamma, I hope you never find out all the dirt on all the other foods you eat - you'd starve to death.

 

[russ_watters]

Actually, I thought someone already did, which is why it was something I had heard of before. Maybe that's why they now offer listings of their ingredients? Knowing about unexpected ingredients is even more important to anyone with a food allergy.

I thought posting the ingredients and nutrition facts, was federal law.

The premise of the movie was one such lawsuit, the judge said that in order to win the suit, the plaintiff had to prove both that McDonald's wanted you to eat every meal there and that doing so would make you sick. The guy in "Supersize Me" took it a step further and purposely choose to eat things high in fat. Regardless, the plaintiffs failed to make their case.

For anyone who thinks that we should assume McDonald's wants us to eat every meal there, apply that logic to any other food/situation (for example, beer...) and see if it works...

 

[hitssquad]

Wendy's finger reward still unclaimed

What I saw on the news was that a co-worker or friend had their finger tip bitten off.

That was in the news a month ago. It was bitten off by a pet leopard and it was not the same finger.
news.google.com/news?q=finger+wendy%27s+leopard

The finger doner has still not been discovered. Wendy's has doubled it's finger-origin-information reward to $100,000.
news.google.com/news?q=finger+wendy%27s+reward

 

[C1ay]

I have another little peeve with McDs. Recently I ordered a Quarter Pounder and a drink. The girl fixs my drink and then puts a Quarter Pounder w/cheese on the tray. I told her I just want a plain Quarter Pounder and she tells me they don't have those anymore. I asked, "What if I don't want cheese?" She replies, "then you have to order a Quarter Pounder w/cheese hold the cheese." I asked her if there was a discount for that and she said no. I then stated that it seemed to me that all customers that want a Quarter Pounder are now charged for a Quarter Pounder w/cheese even if they don't want any cheese and the manager that overheard this said yes. He then explained that they dropped the plain burger because they didn't sell enough so now it's extra work for them to leave the cheese off of the cheeseburger and that's why there's no discount. I wonder, does Wendy's discount their chili if you ask them to hold the fingers?

 

[Moonbear]

I have another little peeve with McDs. Recently I ordered a Quarter Pounder and a drink. The girl fixs my drink and then puts a Quarter Pounder w/cheese on the tray. I told her I just want a plain Quarter Pounder and she tells me they don't have those anymore. I asked, "What if I don't want cheese?" She replies, "then you have to order a Quarter Pounder w/cheese hold the cheese."

I stopped ordering quarter pounders because they kept giving them to me with cheese on them when I didn't order it with cheese. I thought it was just the morons at the drive through window. There's no way I'm waiting for them to make anything to special order, it might cause their collective last neuron to explode to try to figure out how to do that.

I wonder, does Wendy's discount their chili if you ask them to hold the fingers?

No, there's no extra charge for fingers.

 

[russ_watters]

Just got back from lunch. I had a quarter pounder with cheese (a burger without cheese is unAmerican ) (25g fat, 510 cal), a medium fries (16g fat, 350 cal) and a medium coke (210 cal).

Keeping in the spirit of this thread, I forced a co-worker to eat there as well (he rides a bike to work). He had a crispy chicken sandwich (23g fat, 500 cal), medium fries, and medium coke.

 

[DocToxyn]

I keep thinking it would be fun to start making my own sausage.

You really should try it, it's a lot of fun plus you can make so many different varieties: chorizo, linguica, italian, 5-spice asian, seafood...mmmmmmm! Plus you can control the fat content. Just don't think about what went through the casings the last time they were used.

Someone brought up sausages; with my scottish heritage, I get annoyed when people bring up the haggis thing: "Ewww, do you know what they put in haggis?" Essentially all parts of a sheep are used (no need to list them all) and traditionally it is then stuffed into the stomach lining and then boiled. Well, what the heck difference is that from any English German or Italian sausage? The European cultures ate the whole thing! WHen they were down to the bones, they boiled them and made stew! I'm not familiar with the culinary cultures of other continents, but I'll bet all meat eaters learned to eat the entire animal (the parts they couldn't eat, they wore). I see this as the most responsible use of livestock: waste nothing.

Have you seen the haggis they now sell in cans? I just read about it in Saveur, I'll try to find the info on it and post it. I also recall seeing something about haggis-flavored potato chips. I agree about the most efficient use of the animal, we used to eat beef heart regularly, as well as liver. Kidney isn't too bad, but not something I choose. I had sweetbreads (calf thymus) when I was in New Orleans recently and they were great. Tripe is nice is soups too.

 

[hypatia]

My father is from Scotland and loves his home made Haggis. Now me personaly, I can't even look at it, let alone put it in my mouth.
But give some fine Chorizo and flat bread and I'm a happy camper.

 

[Chi Meson]

Haggis 'neaps and taties. Washed down with an Irn Bru. Och!

 

[Danger]

with my scottish heritage, I get annoyed when people bring up the haggis thing: "Ewww, do you know what they put in haggis?"

I'm half Scots, and am revolted by the concept of Haggis. I don't even eat it when they pipe it out on Robbie Burns day. Most of it would be okay, but I detest oatmeal.

The finger doner has still not been discovered.

Can't they get prints off of it.

I asked, "What if I don't want cheese?" She replies, "then you have to order a Quarter Pounder w/cheese hold the cheese."

Back in the early 70's, when I was living near Windsor, my friends and I always went to Burger King. It was pretty good, and the only place where you could get special-order burgers. My neice came to visit once, and was a vegetarian. At the time there were no salads or anything like that available. After thinking for a minute, I ordered her a Whopper—hold the meat. They made it without batting an eye and charged me 35 cents for it.

It was about that same time that Red Barn in Detroit was fined for selling horse-meat burgers.

You really should try it, it's a lot of fun plus you can make so many different varieties: chorizo, linguica, italian, 5-spice asian, seafood...mmmmmmm! Plus you can control the fat content. Just don't think about what went through the casings the last time they were used.

You should be able to buy the plastic casings that they use for weiners somewhere.

I had sweetbreads (calf thymus) when I was in New Orleans

I thought that sweetbread was pancreas.

 

[ShawnD]

Can't they get prints off of it.

Not all bite victims have been arrested before

 

[FredGarvin]

Like Mike Meyers said in "So I Married an Axe Murderer:"

"I think most Scottish cuisine is based on a dare."

 

[Huckleberry]

That's why I dont' eat fast food, they got fingers! There was a guy who got custard from a fast-food restaerant and he really did find a finger!

I really don't go out to eat unless it's chili's.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!

I watched the Daly show last night. They convinced me that the chili finger was a fake, but the custard finger is real. I need to watch better news.

I stopped ordering quarter pounders because they kept giving them to me with cheese on them when I didn't order it with cheese. I thought it was just the morons at the drive through window. There's no way I'm waiting for them to make anything to special order, it might cause their collective last neuron to explode to try to figure out how to do that.

I just feel grateful if they didn't spit on it. For minimum wage spending hours working over a hot stove in a customer service job, I'm surprised anyone would want to eat food prepared by fast food employees.

 

[Moonbear]

You really should try it, it's a lot of fun plus you can make so many different varieties: chorizo, linguica, italian, 5-spice asian, seafood...mmmmmmm! Plus you can control the fat content. Just don't think about what went through the casings the last time they were used.

As long as someone else had the job of cleaning them, I'm okay with that. I think I'll put a meat grinder on my Christmas list this year.

Have you seen the haggis they now sell in cans? I just read about it in Saveur, I'll try to find the info on it and post it.

Why? I can't imagine eating it fresh, let alone out of a can!

I also recall seeing something about haggis-flavored potato chips. I agree about the most efficient use of the animal, we used to eat beef heart regularly, as well as liver. Kidney isn't too bad, but not something I choose. I had sweetbreads (calf thymus) when I was in New Orleans recently and they were great. Tripe is nice is soups too.

I can't stand beef liver. It even smells bad! My mom made it once, and I was willing to try it until I smelled the stench wafting out of the kitchen. As for those other organs, just tough to chew on. I haven't had tripe, but I heard the texture is really the issue, that it just feels odd in the mouth. But maybe in soup, it would boil long enough to soften?

 

[Evo]

I can't stand beef liver. It even smells bad! My mom made it once, and I was willing to try it until I smelled the stench wafting out of the kitchen.

The way I make it, you might like it. I've served it to people before without telling them what it was and they loved it. My ex swore he hated liver, but after having it my way, he asked for it all the time. It has to be sliced very thin and coated with seasoned flour, then I pan fry it with tons of thinly sliced onions that have been caramelized with bacon. Oooh, I need to go make some!

 

[DocToxyn]

You should be able to buy the plastic casings that they use for weiners somewhere.

I thought that sweetbread was pancreas.

You can indeed buy cellulose-based casings, but the texture is weird and the finished product just looks fake, better to pack it in some hog guts.

As far as the sweetbreads, we're both right, they can be obtained from both thymus and pancreas. The ris de veau I had was probably thymus due to the size and since that cut is cheaper and thus more common.

 

[JamesU]

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!

How about having the meat before the pudding.

I watched the Daly show last night. They convinced me that the chili finger was a fake, but the custard finger is real. I need to watch better news.
I just feel grateful if they didn't spit on it. For minimum wage spending hours working over a hot stove in a customer service job, I'm surprised anyone would want to eat food prepared by fast food employees.

I don't know what everyone has against the daily show! they do tell the news, they just make fun of it.

 

[Moonbear]

The way I make it, you might like it. I've served it to people before without telling them what it was and they loved it. My ex swore he hated liver, but after having it my way, he asked for it all the time. It has to be sliced very thin and coated with seasoned flour, then I pan fry it with tons of thinly sliced onions that have been caramelized with bacon. Oooh, I need to go make some!

That's what everyone tells me who likes liver. Smother it in onions seems to be the standard M.O. I also don't like liver pate (that someone snuck onto crackers and I didn't know what it was until I took a bite...it was a lot of effort not to gag and to manage to politely swallow), and I'm not sure if liverwurst is actually made with liver, but I can't stand that either (tasted a lot like the pate). There are some foods that I just don't like much, but can eat them if they are served to me, so I'm open to new preparation methods of those, but liver is in the category of things I find absolutely vile. I can't imagine it being at all redeemable.

 

[Evo]

That's what everyone tells me who likes liver. Smother it in onions seems to be the standard M.O. I also don't like liver pate (that someone snuck onto crackers and I didn't know what it was until I took a bite...it was a lot of effort not to gag and to manage to politely swallow), and I'm not sure if liverwurst is actually made with liver, but I can't stand that either (tasted a lot like the pate). There are some foods that I just don't like much, but can eat them if they are served to me, so I'm open to new preparation methods of those, but liver is in the category of things I find absolutely vile. I can't imagine it being at all redeemable.

Oh, if you don't even like pate, it could be that you are sensitive to the "liver" taste. There is a bitter flavor. Also, liver can have a "grainy" texture on the tongue. I think I eat liver just for the onions.

It's funny because eating liver was once thought to be healthy, but isn't it now considered to contain a lot of toxins and not so good for you? Or is that a fallacy?

My first husband's brother's wife's mother was Jewish and had the best recipe for chopped chicken livers in the world. She also taught me how to make the world's best cole slaw and I taught her how to make the world's best potato salad. We should have opened a deli.

 

[Danger]

Stop whining because we stole mac's idea and made it better. Now mac has surrendered! Microsoft software for all macs! bwahaha!

You have a pretty screwy idea of 'better'. My boss gave me her old 900mHz Pentium 4 machine, and all I use it for is to run my watch software and a couple of games. This G3 at 233mHz puts it absolutely to shame for speed of actually doing something useful. It's twice as fast on Excel or Word. I have no way to compare Photoshop, because the PC doesn't have it, but it's damned fast (loads and opens Photoshop 6 in 7 seconds).
And if you call a dual-processor 2.7mHz G5 Power Mac 'surrendering', you should seriously consider getting professional care.

I'm not sure if liverwurst is actually made with liver, but I can't stand that either (tasted a lot like the pate).

'Wurst' pretty much just means 'sausage'. If it actually says 'liverwurst' on the package, it probably is liver. There are lots that look and are packaged the same, though, such as knockwurst and bratwurst.

 

[JamesU]

You have a pretty screwy idea of 'better'. My boss gave me her old 900mHz Pentium 4 machine, and all I use it for is to run my watch software and a couple of games. This G3 at 233mHz puts it absolutely to shame for speed of actually doing something useful. It's twice as fast on Excel or Word. I have no way to compare Photoshop, because the PC doesn't have it, but it's damned fast (loads and opens Photoshop 6 in 7 seconds).
And if you call a dual-processor 2.7mHz G5 Power Mac 'surrendering', you should seriously consider getting professional care.


'Wurst' pretty much just means 'sausage'. If it actually says 'liverwurst' on the package, it probably is liver. There are lots that look and are packaged the same, though, such as knockwurst and bratwurst.

What kind of mac do you have??!

 

[Danger]

It has to be sliced very thin and coated with seasoned flour, then I pan fry it with tons of thinly sliced onions that have been caramelized with bacon. Oooh, I need to go make some!

MARRY ME! RIGHT NOW! I love liver and onions, with lots of nice rubbery bacon.

I'm not sure if liverwurst is actually made with liver, but I can't stand that either (tasted a lot like the pate).

'Wurst' pretty much just means 'sausage'. If it actually says 'liverwurst' on the package, it probably is liver. There are lots that look and are packaged the same, though, such as knockwurst and bratwurst.

 

[Evo]

MARRY ME! RIGHT NOW! I love liver and onions, with lots of nice rubbery bacon.

Hey, you're still in the running, you have that basement corner that is quite appealing.

'Wurst' pretty much just means 'sausage'. If it actually says 'liverwurst' on the package, it probably is liver. There are lots that look and are packaged the same, though, such as knockwurst and bratwurst.

I love braunsweiger with creamcheese. On a soft, chewy bagel or crusty italian bread, depending on the mood. A glass of good wine and...heaven.

I LOVE rillets, made from duck. The only place outside of France I've had decent rillets was at the Brasserie in Bennington, VT. Anyone else know where I can get good duck rillets in the US..Also, I want to go to another oyster roast and crab feast on the Chesapeke bay like I used to after lightning class sailing or Spinnaker sailing at Annapolis. Night sailing the Chesapeke, completely keeled over with a full moon, the speed we'd get could outrun a stinkpot. Or the coconut bread served in the Canterbury Inn by the big walk in fireplace. So many excellent places.

 

[Danger]

Hey, you're still in the running, you have that basement corner that is quite appealing.

Glad to hear it. I figured for sure that by now one or more of these young dudely guys would have taken the hope out of it. :!)

I LOVE rillets, made from duck.

Alright, I looked that up in my Funk & Wagnalls and came up empty. The rest of that scenario sounds pretty good, except for the crab. (Yeah... I know, but I'm allergic remember. I'll happily feed them to you, but they're off limits for me. )

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Is it a coincidence that the McDonalds thread is running neck and neck with "the greatest tragedy in human history" thread?

Please ponder.

 

[Huckleberry]

Is it a coincidence that the McDonalds thread is running neck and neck with "the greatest tragedy in human history" thread?

Please ponder.

I don't think it's a coincidence.

 

[Danger]

I don't think it's a coincidence.

Right. They're joined at the hip.

 

[Gale]

Right. They're joined at the hip.

mmmm... hip...

anyways, i read this whole thread (and that tragedy thread... you guys make it awful hard to lurk and still keep up with trendy threads...) and i saw that movie super size me. I think the most profound thing in the movie was how he threw up after that first supersize meal. Frankly, they're WAY too big. mcdonalds definately knew it was causing people issues when it actually gave out gallons of soda and tons of fries with a big greesy cheeseburger. They've gotten rid of the "super size" now though, so I'm happier with them.

Personally... i prefer taco bell over a burger joint any day. c'mon people, think outside the bun!

i also don't like liver, sausage is ok, and don't knock finger until you've tried it... (personally, i prefer toes though... )

 

[Moonbear]

Personally... i prefer taco bell over a burger joint any day. c'mon people, think outside the bun!

Ah, Taco Hell! I do once in a while get cravings for that. No idea why. I'm always hungry again soon after eating there...hmm...just what do they use to season those tacos?

and don't knock finger until you've tried it... (personally, i prefer toes though... )

 

[DocToxyn]

I LOVE rillets, made from duck. The only place outside of France I've had decent rillets was at the Brasserie in Bennington, VT. Anyone else know where I can get good duck rillets in the US...

Great stuff Evo, there is a place in Albany, NY that makes a wood-fired pizza with duck rillet on it, superb . You know you could always make your own...duck confit can be purchased already prepared and packed in the fat, or go all the way and start from whole fresh duck.

I found this and thought you might like it: Perigourdine Salad - walnuts, foie gras, duck carpaccio, rillettes and lardons all on top of a few lettuce leaves. I like how they just throw in a "few lettuce" leaves to justify the salad classification . Hey, speaking of French food, did you find anything on those frog sites?

 

[DocToxyn]

I found the canned haggis! Get on over to http://www.caledoniankitchen.com/catalog/ and order up some. There's even a vegetarian version, although "vegetarian haggis" seems like a heck of an oxymoron.

Unfortunately, the haggis chips aren't available in the US , but you an find 'em back home in Scotland. Go to http://www.standrewssweetco.co.uk/crisps.htm and don't forget to try the smoked salmon crisps too.

 

[hitssquad]

Wendy's finger-donor identified

The finger doner has still not been discovered. Wendy's has doubled it's finger-origin-information reward to $100,000.
news.google.com/news?q=finger+wendy%27s+reward

The Wendy's finger-donor has just now been found.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-051805finger_lat,0,7203232.story?coll=la-home-headlines


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4:00 PM PDT, May 18, 2005[/color] latimes.com : California[/color][/size]

Finger in Wendy's Chili Was Sold to Pay Debt[/size]
By Donna Horowitz, Special to The Times[/size]

SAN JOSE — Police today said the man whose finger was allegedly planted in a bowl of chili as a scheme to exact money from the Wendy's restaurant chain sold it to cover a $50 debt.

Santa Clara County Deputy Dist. Atty. David Boyd said the man, identified in reports as Brian Paul Rossiter, 36, of Las Vegas, is not a suspect.

"He is cooperating with law enforcement. We don't have any reason to believe he's been involved," said Boyd.

Today's court events rounded out the official account of the mystery of the case of the missing digit by answering the remaining questions — whose finger was found in the chili, and why.
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[JamesU]

god, finally