Does Copper's Oxidation State Need Specification in Chemical Reactions?

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The discussion revolves around whether the oxidation state of copper needs to be specified in chemical reactions, particularly in the context of a single replacement reaction involving copper and silver nitrate. The scope includes conceptual understanding and clarification of chemical notation in reactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • A student questions whether the oxidation state of copper should be specified in the balanced equation for the reaction with silver nitrate, suggesting that it is unclear without specification.
  • Some participants note that the +II oxidation state for copper is commonly encountered and imply that it is generally assumed in such reactions.
  • One participant argues that Cu(I) is rare and that specifying copper II is unnecessary in general copper reactions, indicating a belief that the context makes the oxidation state clear.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of specifying copper's oxidation state, with some advocating for clarity and others suggesting it is not required in general contexts.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the generality of copper's oxidation states in chemical reactions and the implications of not specifying them in educational contexts.

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A student performs a single replacement reaction by dipping a strip of copper metal, Cu(s), into an aqueous solution of silver nitrate, AgN03(aq), to produce silver, Ag(s). Write the balanced equation.

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The answer has, 2AgN03(aq) + Cu(s) = 2Ag(s) + Cu(N03)2(aq).

This only makes sense to me if it is copper II metal. Doesn't it have to specify? How else would I know?

I know that there is some naming rule that says something about if there is nothing specified, then it is one or the other. But I have seen copper II specified before.
 
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student34 said:
How else would I know?
This is among a whole lot of other information that just has to stick in your memory. "The plus II oxidation state for Cu" is the one you commonly encounter. There isn't any convincing argument for stability of nine electrons in the 4s and 3d orbitals (Cu+2) being greater than that of ten electrons (Cu+), so don't feel you've missed seeing something that should be obvious to you --- it isn't obvious to anyone.
 
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This is among a whole lot of other information that just has to stick in your memory. "The plus II oxidation state for Cu" is the one you commonly encounter. There isn't any convincing argument for stability of nine electrons in the 4s and 3d orbitals (Cu+2) being greater than that of ten electrons (Cu+), so don't feel you've missed seeing something that should be obvious to you --- it isn't obvious to anyone.
Shouldn't they have put "copper II" instead of just "copper"? That is what throws me off.
 
No, no need for that. Cu(I) is quite rare. You may expect Cu(I) in questions related to some quite specific copper chemistry, but not when it comes to a general copper reaction in the solution.
 
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