Does hamiltonian/energy eigenstate always exist?

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The discussion revolves around the existence of energy eigenstates in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to Hamiltonians that are time-dependent versus time-independent. Participants explore the implications of these conditions on the nature of wave functions, including the consideration of non-normalizable wave functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether energy eigenstates always exist in terms of wave functions, suggesting that they seem to exist due to their association with quantized energies.
  • Another participant asserts that energy eigenstates do not exist for time-dependent Hamiltonians.
  • A subsequent reply challenges the implication that all time-independent Hamiltonians necessarily have energy eigenstates, including those that are non-normalizable.
  • It is noted that while unnormalizable wave functions can exist mathematically, they are not considered physically realizable.
  • One participant reiterates that energy eigenstates do not exist for time-dependent Hamiltonians, but acknowledges that such Hamiltonians do possess an eigenstructure, albeit without stationary states.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the existence of energy eigenstates in different contexts, particularly between time-dependent and time-independent Hamiltonians. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of eigenstates and the physical realizability of certain wave functions, particularly in the context of time-dependent Hamiltonians and non-normalizable states.

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Hi all,
This may seem silly but...do energy eigenstates always exist in terms of wave functions themselves? To me, it seems they do because they always contain quantized energies. How about any hypothetical non-normalizeable wave functions?

Thanks

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Energy eigenstates do not exist for time-dependent Hamiltonians.
 
So you are implying all time-independent ones do? including the non-normalizable ones
 
The unnormalizable wave-functions exist mathematically, but are not physically realizable.
 
Matterwave said:
Energy eigenstates do not exist for time-dependent Hamiltonians.

A time dependent hamiltonian DOES have an eigenstructure. However a possible eigenstate is not a stationary state.
 

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