Does loud voice mean high frequency?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

Loudness in sound is determined by amplitude, not frequency. The velocity of sound is influenced by the medium's temperature, pressure, and density, and is independent of frequency in ideal gases. The formula for the velocity of sound in a medium, such as water, is given by c = (E / ρ)^(1/2), where E is the bulk modulus elasticity and ρ is the density. Therefore, a louder voice does not equate to a higher frequency; rather, it corresponds to greater amplitude sound waves.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of sound wave properties, including amplitude and frequency
  • Knowledge of the relationship between sound velocity and medium properties
  • Familiarity with the formula for velocity of sound in different media
  • Basic principles of wave mechanics
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the effects of temperature and pressure on sound velocity in various media
  • Explore the relationship between amplitude and perceived loudness in sound waves
  • Study the formulas for calculating sound velocity in gases, liquids, and solids
  • Learn about the bulk modulus elasticity and its role in sound propagation
USEFUL FOR

Acoustics engineers, physics students, audio engineers, and anyone interested in the principles of sound and wave mechanics.

avito009
Messages
184
Reaction score
4
As I know: Velocity of sound = wavelength x frequency. If frequency increases wavelength decreases. So even if you shout loudly the velocity of sound won't change only that you will hear a louder voice.

So does that mean that louder voice has higher frequency?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
A louder voice has higher amplitude sound waves.
 
avito009 said:
As I know: Velocity of sound = wavelength x frequency.

Then you know incorrectly

speed of sound is dependent on the temperature, pressure and density of the material it is traveling through, be that air, another gas or a solid. The speed (velocity) of a sound wave in a idea gas is independent of frequency but for a real world gas, the frequency does add a slight variation

The amplitude of a sound wave is independent of its frequency
Think of a piano or other instrument playing a single note ( single frequency)
it can be played louder or quieter but the frequency of that note doesn't change

you can even take that a step further. you listen to the radio or the TV I assume ?
when you turn the volume up and down the frequency of the sound doesn't change, aye ?
you don't hear the news readers voice changing pitch with a change in volume :smile:

Dave
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: olgerm
davenn said:
speed of sound is dependent on the temperature, pressure and density of the material
You are right. The velocity of sound depends on the medium. So now we are in need of a formula of velocity of sound that takes into account the medium (Hot air, Water etc). Could you give out such a formula?
 
avito009 said:
You are right. The velocity of sound depends on the medium. So now we are in need of a formula of velocity of sound that takes into account the medium (Hot air, Water etc). Could you give out such a formula?

Isn't this now a different subject than the topic you started with? You never acknowledge if you had finally understood what "loud" corresponds to in wave mechanincs, so it isn't clear if you have understood THAT part of it before opening another can of worms.

Secondly, have you done a preliminary search on those relationships?

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
You never acknowledge if you had finally understood what "loud" corresponds to in wave mechanincs, so it isn't clear if you have understood THAT part of it before opening another can of worms.
From what I understand: The longer the wavelength, the lower the frequency. The 'height' of the wave is its amplitude. The amplitude determines how loud a sound will be. Greater amplitude means the sound will be louder.

Now coming to my previous post. As far as I know that if we were to calculate speed of light in water as the medium we would use the refractive index of water. But what would we use in case of velocity of sound?
 

Attachments

  • amplitude-of-the-wave.png
    amplitude-of-the-wave.png
    3.8 KB · Views: 721
avito009 said:
From what I understand: The longer the wavelength, the lower the frequency. The 'height' of the wave is its amplitude. The amplitude determines how loud a sound will be. Greater amplitude means the sound will be louder.

Now coming to my previous post. As far as I know that if we were to calculate speed of light in water as the medium we would use the refractive index of water. But what would we use in case of velocity of sound?
A table like this, for example:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/soundv.html

Usually for sound the speed is tabulated directly whereas for light the index of refraction is more common.
There are formulas that relate speed of sound to the properties of the medium, too. But they depend on the type of medium (solid, gas, liquid, bulk or guided, etc)
 
I think that I have found the formula that I need. Formula of velocity of sound in water = c = (E / ρ)1/2 .
Where
E = bulk modulus elasticity (Pa, psi)

ρ = density (kg/m3, lb/ft3)
 
Drakkith said:
A louder voice has higher amplitude sound waves.
To summarize I would say that loudness depends on amplitude and amplitude is independent of the frequency or wavelength. Am I right?
 
  • #10
avito009 said:
To summarize I would say that loudness depends on amplitude and amplitude is independent of the frequency or wavelength. Am I right?

I believe so.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
13K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 54 ·
2
Replies
54
Views
7K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
11K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
5K