Does math get more interesting after Calc II?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the perceived interest level of mathematics after Calculus II, particularly in relation to upcoming courses like Vector Calculus. Participants share their experiences and suggest ways to enhance engagement with the subject.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses that they find calculus mundane and seeks insight into more engaging mathematical topics.
  • Another participant shares their enjoyment of tensor analysis and its applications in General Relativity, suggesting that applied math can be more interesting.
  • A different participant argues that calculus becomes more engaging when students learn to prove the rules from scratch, as seen in analysis courses.
  • Suggestions for maintaining interest include exploring mathematical origami and reading a book that surveys various math topics.
  • One participant asserts that increased knowledge leads to more discovery and enjoyment in mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that calculus can be perceived as boring, but they offer differing views on what makes mathematics more interesting and engaging. There is no consensus on a singular path to increased interest.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various mathematical topics and approaches without resolving the question of when or if mathematics becomes more interesting after Calculus II.

Who May Find This Useful

Math majors or students considering advanced mathematics courses, as well as those seeking ways to enhance their engagement with mathematical concepts.

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Hello all!
I am currently taking a six week Calc II w/ Analytical Geometry and will be taking Vector Calculus in a few weeks, also six week course. I am a math major and I love math, but I find calculus a tad on the boring side. We just started infinite series this week, a little more interesting but not yet on the edge of my chair. So my two questions are; 1) Was there a math class that just blew your mind or really got you going with math? 2) Any ideas to help keep me interested?

While I am "enjoying" Calculus, at this point it just seems mundane. Learn this rule, apply this rule, here is another rule, apply it and I'll give you another! I understand that it is building up a base of knowledge but is there anything exciting in the future? When do i get to use my own analytical power, problem solving capabilities or dare I say...creativity?

Thanks for your time and help,
Jonathan
 
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I enjoyed tensor analysis which is one step beyond vector calculus a lot as it gave me the tools to learn General Relativity. The vector calc stuff is used in E&M and in fluid flow so if you like applied math then you should enjoy that and then there's the Millennial problem dealing with the Navier Stokes equation.

Mathwise though you might like mathematical origami a combination of geometry and other maths. There's a video on youtube "Beyond the Folds" that touches on Prof Eric Demaine's work and Prof Robert Lang's work. One such problem is the classic trisecting the angle and doubling the cube can be computed using origami folds.

Lastly, there's a popular book called Math 1001 by Prof Elwes that surveys many math topics so you could use it as a kind of catalog to find and area of interest.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1554077192/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
Yes, calculus is boring. Especially when they teach it like you said. More interesting is when you will actually prove all these rules from scratch. This is what you'll do in analysis. If you're having a lot of free time, then you can try to work through Spivak and Apostol for more exciting views of calculus.
 
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OK, thanks for the input!
 
Sure it does! The more you know the more you can learn and the more you start discovering :) Discovery is always fun
 

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