Does Non-Uniform Convergence of Fourier Series Imply Discontinuity?

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The discussion centers around the relationship between the non-uniform convergence of Fourier series and the continuity of the functions involved. Participants explore the implications of a function's continuity on the uniform convergence of its Fourier series, questioning the logical connections presented by a professor regarding these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about a professor's statement that if a Fourier series of a function is not continuous, then it does not converge uniformly to that function.
  • Another participant argues that while the function may not be continuous, the individual terms and partial sums of the Fourier series are continuous, suggesting that the limit may not be uniform despite the continuity of the sequence of functions.
  • A participant reiterates the professor's claim that if the Fourier series converges uniformly, then it must be continuous, leading to the conclusion that non-continuity implies non-uniform convergence.
  • Further clarification is sought regarding the nature of convergence and continuity, particularly in the context of piecewise functions and the behavior of Fourier series at points of discontinuity.
  • One participant speculates that the professor's reference to "the FS" might pertain to the sum of the Fourier series, emphasizing that if the convergence were uniform, the sum would be continuous, which contradicts the observed non-continuity.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the implications of continuity and convergence in the context of Fourier series. There is no consensus on the logical connections or the implications of the professor's statements, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the relationships between continuity, uniform convergence, and the behavior of Fourier series, particularly in cases involving piecewise functions and points of discontinuity. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and interpretations that remain unresolved.

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I don't understand what my professor told me. He said that if a fourieer series of a function f is not continuous then it doesn't converge uniformly to f.

But the given theorem only states that, "if a sequence of functions is continuous and converges uniformly to f, then f is continuous."

I'm given that f is not continuous. and that the fourieer series of f is not continuous. How does this mean that the fourieer series doesn't converge uniformly to f?

This is just a application of logic here

A&B=> C

not C=> (not A) or (not B)

knowing (not A) doesn't really give me (not B)
 
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Even if the function f is not continuous, each individual term and all partial sums of its Fourier series are still continuous (all terms are just sines and cosines, the sum of any finite number of sines and cosines is continuous everywhere).

The sequence of partial sums is continuous, but the limit is not - therefore, convergence is not uniform.

A & not C => not B
 
Oh i see that makes much more sense. So the sequence of functions are continuous even though the fourieer series is not?

Heres what my professor said, "If the FS series converges uniformly, then the FS must have been continuous (since the uniform limit of a sequence of continuous functions is continuous). Since the FS is not continuous , we conclude that the converge is not uniform."

I don't quite understand this statement.
 
torquerotates said:
Oh i see that makes much more sense. So the sequence of functions are continuous even though the fourieer series is not?

Heres what my professor said, "If the FS series converges uniformly, then the FS must have been continuous (since the uniform limit of a sequence of continuous functions is continuous). Since the FS is not continuous , we conclude that the converge is not uniform."

I don't quite understand this statement.

If f(x) has Fourier series

[tex]f(x)=\frac{a_0}{2}+\sum_{n=1} ^{\infty}a_n cos(\frac{n \pi x}{L})+b_n sin(\frac{n \pi x}{L})[/tex]

f(x) is continuous everywhere for all x except at points x0.

So for all x≠x0, the Fourier series converges to f(x).

at x=x0, the series converges to the mean of the left and right limits i.e.

[tex]f(x)=\frac{1}{2}(\lim_{x \rightarrow x_0^-} f(x) +\lim_{x \rightarrow x_0^+} f(x))[/tex]

This usually occurs when you have piecewise functions.
 
torquerotates said:
Oh i see that makes much more sense. So the sequence of functions are continuous even though the fourieer series is not?

Heres what my professor said, "If the FS series converges uniformly, then the FS must have been continuous (since the uniform limit of a sequence of continuous functions is continuous). Since the FS is not continuous , we conclude that the converge is not uniform."

I don't quite understand this statement.

I think that when your professor talks about "the FS" he means "the sum of the FS". If the convergence of the FS had been uniform, the sum would be a continuous function. Since the sum isn't, the convergence couldn't have been uniform. Is that where your confusion lies?
 

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