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Does one have to die to become zombie or will a bite do it

  1. Oct 19, 2009 #1

    wolram

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    I am confused, does one have to die to become zombie or will a bite do it, in the films it seems they just chew on a to be zombie, this way seems so waste full, and the food chain would break down very quickly.
     
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  3. Oct 19, 2009 #2

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    That's why they are like the Ebola virus:

    Too contagious for their own good.

    Vampires, on the other hand..
     
  4. Oct 19, 2009 #3
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    I think you mean in Resident Evil because most other zombie movies actually have DEAD people rising not people infected with a diseases.
    But yeah in resident evil just getting infected will cause you to die and then be reanimated. I don't think the zombies in resident evil need to eat though... they just raged to kill. So it wouldn't matter if they are being wastefull they won't die from starvation anyways. (their already dead...)
     
  5. Oct 19, 2009 #4

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    So how long will an un fed zombie live?
     
  6. Oct 19, 2009 #5
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    foooreverrrr... I don't think they are living though... lol
     
  7. Oct 19, 2009 #6

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    What happens to all the babies? do the adult zombies leave them alone, as you do not see zombie babies on film.
     
  8. Oct 19, 2009 #7

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    They're kept in incubation pens so when they grow up they can be infected. Baby zombies don't grow anymore, so are fairly useless as far as advancing the species goes
     
  9. Oct 19, 2009 #8

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    I think zombies fall apart if they don't eat. A foot here, an arm there, an eyeball the next day perhaps.

    So, I think the really crucial parameter to determine here is the Z(ombie)-N(Atural)-A(verage)-D(ecomposition)-rate, i.e the ZNADR, for short.

    ZNADR measures kilograms of biomass lost/time, i.e, with SI-units kg/s.

    I believe there was an article in Nature (or was it Fortean Times?) back in the 80s stating that the ZNADR is approx 1.23kg/day for a male, somewhat less for the female. But, I might be wrong on that..
     
  10. Oct 19, 2009 #9
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    lol there was a book about surviving zombies that talked about all of this stuff. Its a good read actually you guys should look for it. I'll go find the name
     
  11. Oct 19, 2009 #10

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    Another great example of quality science being discussed on PF!

    Not only is it theoretically intriguing but there are biomedical applications to this research as well!:biggrin:
     
  12. Oct 19, 2009 #11

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    Just to be clear what is the difference between a reanimated mummy and a zombie.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2009 #12

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    Mummies are brittle, zombies are squishy.

    Whereas zombies decompose, mummies reduce into dust.
     
  14. Oct 19, 2009 #13

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    References. peer-reviewed please. :biggrin:
     
  15. Oct 19, 2009 #14

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    Watch Peter Jackson's Brain Dead aka Dead Alive, best zombie baby scene ever.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2009 #15
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    In the movie Night Of The Living Dead: The zombies were dead people that came back from their graves. The reason they got out of their graves was because some sort of radiation caused it. I forgot where the radiation came from but in those days people were very worried about nuclear testing in the atmosphere.
     
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  17. Oct 20, 2009 #16

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    No, we were not.
     
  18. Oct 20, 2009 #17
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    A mummy is animated by a part of the soul of the deceased (either the ka or ba, I can not remember) which is protecting the relics or property of the deceased. It is supposed to have some sort of consciousness and purpose.

    Zombies are generally considered 'mindless' but there are different types. Originally zombies were created by witch doctors. Witch doctors generally either bring the soul of the deceased back to inhabit the body and bind it as their slave or give a living person some sort of potion that destroys their will and binds them to the will of the witch doctor. The later are generally not dead but may eventually look and smell like it as they no longer pay any attention to hygiene, do not think to avoid hurting themselves, and do not dress their wounds. This is actually what "real" zombies are supposed to be like.
    Sci fi zombies are generally created through some sort of disease which destroys the higher function of the victims brain and turn out much like the "real" witch doctor zombies, so not necessarily dead. Some are the victims of an organism which infects and kills the body of its host and then some how takes control of the dead body as a vehicle to continue spreading itself. And there are apparently also zombies animated by radiation.
     
  19. Oct 20, 2009 #18

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    Well, of course the zombies weren't, he was referring to the humans
     
  20. Oct 20, 2009 #19

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    What is really interesting is how the racist, Eurocentric view that only whites are good at science totally suppresses the fact that witch doctors in Mali have reduced the ZNADR to 0.34 kg/day for BOTH sexes!!

    This stunning scientific achievement was noted already in 1674, when the Jesuit priest Josa Garamanga commented upon it (he was later bitten by a lamia, and wasted away two years later)
     
  21. Oct 20, 2009 #20
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    Lamia take jesuits? She must have been bored.
     
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