Does position operator have eigen wave function?

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The discussion centers around the properties of the position operator in quantum mechanics, particularly its status as a Hermitian operator and the nature of its eigenfunctions. Participants explore theoretical implications, mathematical definitions, and the concept of generalized eigenvectors within the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Some participants assert that the position operator is Hermitian, but emphasize the need for self-adjointness in the infinite-dimensional case, noting that the domain of the operator is significant.
  • It is proposed that the eigenfunctions of the position operator cannot be normalized in the usual sense, as they are distributions rather than elements of the standard Hilbert space.
  • One participant suggests that the concept of Rigged Hilbert spaces provides a framework to handle generalized eigenvectors, although these do not form a basis in the traditional sense.
  • Another participant questions whether generalized eigenvectors in Rigged Hilbert spaces could constitute a basis for an extended space, indicating a potential area of contention.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the position operator is Hermitian and that its eigenfunctions cannot be normalized in the standard way. However, there is disagreement regarding the implications of Rigged Hilbert spaces and whether generalized eigenvectors can form a basis.

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The discussion involves complex mathematical concepts such as self-adjointness, distributions, and Rigged Hilbert spaces, which may require specific definitions and assumptions that are not fully explored in the posts.

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I am learning quantum mechics. The hypothesis is:

In the quantum mechanics, all operators representing observables are Hermitian, and their eigen functions constitute complete systems. For a system in a state described by wave function ψ(x,t), a measurement of observable F is certain to return one of the eigenvalues of the operator F.

In the 1D infinite well, the position x should be an observable, its operator x is Hermitian, and its eigen function satisfies xg(x)=x'g(x), leading to g(x)=δ(x-x'), the eigenvalue x' is any real number. But g(x)=δ(x-x') cannot be normalized, and it cannot be a wave function since a wave function must be normalizable. Then my question is:

1. Is the position x a Hermitian operator?
2. If it is, why there is no eigen wave function?
 
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nosafeway said:
Is the position x a Hermitian operator?
Yes, the position operator is hermitian. But for the spectral theorem, a slightly stronger condition is needed: self-adjointness. These conditions agree only in the finite dimensional case. In the infinite-dimensional case, the domain of the operator matters. The position operator is self-adjoint on ##L^2(\mathbb R)## if you restrict its domain to the space of Schwarz functions ##\mathcal S(\mathbb R)##. (You can look up the all the definitions in Wikipedia.)

If it is, why there is no eigen wave function?
In infinite dimensions, the eigenvectors don't need to form a basis anymore. The position operator is an extreme example, since it doesn't have eigenvectors at all.

For the full spectral theorem, have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_theorem
 
You're right that the eigenfunctions of the position operator cannot be normalized in the usual sense of the ##L^2## norm as we're dealing with distributions now i.e. they don't live in the usual Hilbert space of square Lebesgue integrable functions. The way to get around it is to use what's known as a Rigged Hilbert space: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigged_hilbert_space
 
One thing needs to be noted here, though: Rigged Hilbert spaces indeed allow you to define the notion of generalized eigenvectors, but there is still no sense in which these generalized eigenvectors would constitute a basis.
 
rubi said:
One thing needs to be noted here, though: Rigged Hilbert spaces indeed allow you to define the notion of generalized eigenvectors, but there is still no sense in which these generalized eigenvectors would constitute a basis.
Don't they constitute a basis for the extended space Ωx?
 
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