Does Shaking and Settling Affect the Weight of a Milk Bottle?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of shaking and settling on the weight of a non-homogenized milk bottle. Participants explore whether the weight changes when the bottle is being carried compared to just after it is put down, considering the dynamics of the milk and cream separation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of momentum and forces acting on the milk and cream during separation. Questions arise about the closed nature of the bottle and how that affects weight perception. Some suggest that the weight might temporarily increase due to forces exerted by the cream as it rises.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants offer hints and insights into the relationship between weight and acceleration, while others express confusion about the fundamental assumptions of the problem.

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There is uncertainty regarding the closed status of the bottle and how that might influence weight changes. Participants are also grappling with the qualitative nature of the problem and the difficulty in estimating any weight difference.

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Homework Statement


An old fashioned non-homogenized milk bottle is shaken up so the cream and milk are uniformly mixed. The bottle is then placed down, and the cream and milk begin to separate. Does the bottle weigh more or less when it is being carried or just after it is put down? Estimate the difference if any.


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As far as I can see it's a purely qualitative problem.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think the answer may be that it weighs more when it is put down, as the milk has momentum as it separates downwards which is greater than the momentum of the cream upwards as the milk has greater mass and they are both separating at the same speed.
No idea how to estimate the difference in weight though...

Anyone have any ideas about this problem?
 
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I can't really understand.
Is the bottle closed ? If so, nothing goes in, nothing comes out, how can it weight differently ?
 
I think it weighs more just after it is shaken than when it is put down.
The cream starts separating just after we stop shaking the bottle, cream being less denser than milk starts rising upwards thereby exerting a force downwards which adds upto the weight of the bottle for a moment.
 
Yeah, ok.
But the weight is just an acceleration (Weight = g*m)
(A hint for your solution)

As soon as the convective motion in the milk mass has stabilized (very soon I guess), there is no more acceleration, so the weight must be it's rest weight.

And when exist, the difference is really little.
 

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